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re: If Alabama goes 15-0....
Posted on 11/15/16 at 9:59 am to SpartyGator
Posted on 11/15/16 at 9:59 am to SpartyGator
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That 95 florida team was really damn good and that team just shite on UF so bad it wasn't even funny.
That 95 Florida team would have been beaten by your 2008 team by 50.
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Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:01 am to TideSaint
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That '95 Nebraska team would get fricking obliterated by this year's Alabama team and the 2011 versions of Alabama and LSU.
Once again, a 1AA team with 1AA recruiting and 1AA athletes from statesboro GA ran for 300 yards against that 11 bama defense. You can say "they overlooked them" or "we had just played LSU" but the facts played out on the field. That team threw for like 20 yards on bama but still put up over 300 yards and scored 21 points. It's simply illogical to think that the best option offense in history that had their way with multiple top 10 opponents would just be stopped dead in their tracks.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:09 am to heartbreakTiger
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have you seen Bama 2016 dline? you aren't running on them.
LSU certainly isn't running on them.
I'll say this again, but no one will listen so whatever. The SEC has no even semi-complete teams this year outside of Bama. LSU is completely deficient at QB. Ole Miss has no running game to speak of. Auburn has huge offensive problems. A&M has a 50% passer as their now injured starter.
Bama is like New England. They are good at taking away what you do well. If you have no second option, they will eat your lunch. LSU can't throw the ball, so Bama had 9 guys in the box all night and LSU couldn't run.
I don't know if anyone will beat this Bama team, but LSU showed a blueprint for how to play defense against them. There are teams outside the SEC who have enough athletes on defense to do similar types of things. However, Kiffin has done a masterful job on more than one occasion of taking a QB who is ok passing, and turning him into Joe Montana for a bowl game/playoff game. The pieces are there for Bama to be unbeatable if they can get their mid to long range passing game going, thankfully they aren't there yet
Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:13 am to Oklahomey
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4. 2005 Texas
5. 2004 USC
Nah...quite frankly our 05 team should've boat raced that UT squad. That game still makes me sick.
I wouldn't put this Bama team as the best ever, I wouldn't even consider them to be Sabans best. The defense is an all timer, but Hurts has limitations as a passer and this isn't his best Oline either. I think Hurts would struggle against athletic secondaries like 01 Miami.
This post was edited on 11/15/16 at 10:17 am
Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:17 am to heartbreakTiger
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this bama team would have its way with almost any team just based on its D-line, they own the back field.
Except for Ole Miss who they were down 21 points to. Did everyone just forget about that?
I'm not saying this Bama team won't be one of the best ones of all time, and I know pretty much every team has a couple tough matchups during the year, but it's not like the Bama D has been invincible all year.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:19 am to RLDSC FAN
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Nah...quite frankly our 05 team should've boat raced that UT squad. That game still makes me sick.
Yeah, could you explain that one? Especially why you used the term boat raced. I understand feeling like you should have won the game, but those two teams were pretty equally talented.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:58 am to WG_Dawg
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You can say "they overlooked them" or "we had just played LSU" but the facts played out on the field.
Educated observations are still worth consideration. Its obvious that this was sort of "trap game." That game was coming off of two of the most physical games Bama played all year. MSU didn't have a great record that year, but they barely lost all but one of the games that they lost(Arkansas, the weekend after the Bama game.) They were a tough outing that year.
That Georgia Southern team was tough, no doubt, but that game was never in question, and our team played flat out un-inspired. To use that one game as the basis of your argument is not very convincing.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:04 am to Funky Tide 8
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To use that one game as the basis of your argument is not very convincing.
ok, tell me how many other triple option teams bama played in 2011 and I'll use those for reference too.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:09 am to WG_Dawg
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ok, tell me how many other triple option teams bama played in 2011 and I'll use those for reference too.
I'm not really saying that you are right or wrong, I am just saying that given the context of that Ga So game, and assuming the context of a hypo game of 2011 Bama vs 95 Nebraska, there is not a very strong argument to be made using that one game as the basis to your entire argument.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:23 am to Funky Tide 8
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there is not a very strong argument to be made using that one game as the basis to your entire argument.
as the ONE game, no of course not. But ga southern (or navy, or gt) are the only teams that come to mind with a similar style offense, so it seems like a pretty fair comparison yeah? What bama has done recently against LSU or other top teams is kinda irrelevant when talking about the nebraska matchup since they aren't even remotely close to the same system.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:27 am to Oklahomey
I think our 2011 team would beat this team.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:31 am to AlbertMeansWell
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I think our 2011 team would beat this team.
I do too. That 11 team was just unreal. This year's team, obviously, is elite as well but they dont' have quite the QB play..hurts is awesome but he's limited as a passer and is still a TFr.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:49 am to heartbreakTiger
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are you serious 2011 LSU, 2011 BAMA, and 2016 Bama would buttrape that team. Yea go ahead and run the triple option on this Bama D it will work out real well.
What a dumb comment. Most agree that Saban had his best D ever in 2011 and that D was one of the best of all time. Only ONE team scored more than 14 points on them. That team was Georgia Southern and their triple option attack. They scored 21 (they had 14 at half). They ran for over 300 yards on one of the best defenses ever and averaged 7.7 ypc. That is almost unimaginable. Even if Bama was overlooking them and came out flat, you would never expect that Bama D to give up that many yards. And Georiga Southern threw for 1 completion in that game.
1995 Nebraska was built like Bama, but had speed like Oregon a few years back. They were incredible and any team that could put 62 points up on an undefeated Steve Spurrier team in the NC proved all they would ever need to prove because that UF team was awesome. No team would destroy that team. They could have been beaten like any team, but no one came close.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:53 am to SmokeTide
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Sec is down this year.
Has literally been said on here and talking heads in the media every year since 2008, yet every postseason and the following preseason, there's the SEC back with 6+ teams in the top 25
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:54 am to Big EZ Tiger
another thing that almost ALWAYS gets overlooked is that nebraska defense was pretty friggin good in their own right. In 1995 they finished:
2nd in rushing defense (78 ypg)
13th in total defense (294 ypg)
4th in scoring defense (13 ppg)
with how quickly and easily they scored on offense you'd think with all the extra possessions their defense played they'd get gassed but not really. They were susceptible to the pass, but again that is not bama's strength this year.
2nd in rushing defense (78 ypg)
13th in total defense (294 ypg)
4th in scoring defense (13 ppg)
with how quickly and easily they scored on offense you'd think with all the extra possessions their defense played they'd get gassed but not really. They were susceptible to the pass, but again that is not bama's strength this year.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:55 am to AlbertMeansWell
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I think our 2011 team would beat this team
2011 Bama beats 2016 Bama 27-3
2011 LSU beats 2016 Bama 17-3
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:08 pm to flomacanes
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Has literally been said on here and talking heads in the media every year since 2008, yet every postseason and the following preseason, there's the SEC back with 6+ teams in the top 25
Big difference to me this year is there is no topheavy portion of the SEC like in years past. Usually the SEC will have 7 teams with 3 in the top 10 and the other 4 in the back half. This year it's one in the top 10, and 4-5 in the back half.
We will see what happens in bowl games, and depending on how many teams are selected to the NY6 from conferences. The B1G could feasibly have 4 teams in the NY6 bowls which mean their other bowl teams are going into the slaughter as they move up multiple slots
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:09 pm to WG_Dawg
D-Line penetration, especially when coupled with with fast sure-tackling LBs & DBs, is how you shut down a TO offense. And that's a pretty fair assessment of the 2016 Bama D.
This post was edited on 11/15/16 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:13 pm to WG_Dawg
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so it seems like a pretty fair comparison yeah?
I think it is a comparison that lacks context, which means that it isn't a "fair" comparison.
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What bama has done recently against LSU or other top teams is kinda irrelevant when talking about the nebraska matchup since they aren't even remotely close to the same system.
can't disagree there.The Ga So game in 2011 is also irrelevant.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:15 pm to Big EZ Tiger
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Only ONE team scored more than 14 points on them. That team was Georgia Southern and their triple option attack. They scored 21 (they had 14 at half).
They scored 14 on offense.
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