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re: I wonder how Saban feels about seeing Carroll runnin away with this Super Bowl?

Posted on 2/3/14 at 6:56 pm to
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 6:56 pm to
Some guys are better suited for one level or another.

The NFL isn't necessarily more difficult, just very different. NFL coaches don't have to spend 365 days a year recruiting and putting up with boosters and annoying alumni, and college coaches don't have to gameplan as many times every year and don't face an equally high level of competition week in and week out.

Saban is maybe the best college coach ever, and I doubt he loses any sleep over Pete Carrol.
Posted by diddydirtyAubie
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 7:00 pm to
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The NFL isn't necessarily more difficult


it is way more difficult.

the worst team can beat the best team on any given sunday.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 7:04 pm to
Agred, and if you read my post you'd know I mentioned that specifically.

That being said, college coaches have many responsibilities that NFL coaches don't have. NFL coaches actually get real vacations, don't have to put up with 18 year old college kids, don't have to suck up to high schoolers year round, don't have to spend hours every week dealing with alumni and university obligations, etc.

NFL coaches also can rely on their guys as professionals more consistently. College kids are much more emotionally unstable during games. NFL coaches also don't have to do nearly as much talent develop as college coaches do, as the talent is much more refined as an NFL rookie than a college freshman.

It's just different. If it were simply easier, NFL coaches wouldn't consistently fail in college.
Posted by diddydirtyAubie
Bozeman
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 7:08 pm to
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If it were simply easier, NFL coaches wouldn't consistently fail in college.


show me a good NFL coach that failed at the college level.
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 7:23 pm to
Dennis Green?
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 7:24 pm to
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show me a good NFL coach that failed at the college level.


If we're counting "good" as playoff appearences:

Mike Sherman (Probably the most glaring example, 4 division titles in the NFL and flopped at A&M)

Bill Calahan (Pretty close, SB appearance followed by destroying the Nebraska program)

Dennis Green

Dave Wannstedt

Chan Gailey

Al Groh went to the playoffs with the Jets and his best college season ever was 9-4, though he did stick around at UVA a while. Tough to really count him due to longevity.

And that's just head coaches, the list of successful NFL coordinators who failed in college is much longer, like Charlie Weiss and Rod Dowhower.

The reality is that the sample size of good NFL head coaches going to college just isn't very big since the NFL pays better and is more prestigious.
This post was edited on 2/3/14 at 7:26 pm
Posted by diddydirtyAubie
Bozeman
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 7:29 pm to
so really about 3 guys.

Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 7:33 pm to
1: You asked for one, I provided five off the top of my head. You're moving the goalposts.

2: How many good NFL coaches have then gone to college total? It usually works the other way.

Just admit you were wrong and we'll move on
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