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I Keep Hearing "Death Penalty"; A Little Perspective Is Needed
Posted on 7/26/17 at 6:16 am
Posted on 7/26/17 at 6:16 am
Penn State covered up lots of child rape by a coach for years. Many leading school officials were involved in the cover up. And the NCAA essentially gave them a hefty fine of $60M, a one year bowl ban and the loss of a few scholarships over two years. That's it.
The initial sanctions were more significant: four year bowl ban, loss of forty scholarships over four years. However, most of these penalties were removed the year after the announcement, in 2013. Penn State was back to full scholarship levels in 2015.
The NCAA has no balls anymore.
The initial sanctions were more significant: four year bowl ban, loss of forty scholarships over four years. However, most of these penalties were removed the year after the announcement, in 2013. Penn State was back to full scholarship levels in 2015.
The NCAA has no balls anymore.
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 6:25 am to LuckyTiger
PSU did not have recruiting violations. Many believe they should not have been penalized at all.
Having said that, I hope ole miss does not get severe penalties. They will be watched very closely with regards to recruiting. Hopefully Ole Miss gets a strong compliance program and can stay away from trouble.
Having said that, I hope ole miss does not get severe penalties. They will be watched very closely with regards to recruiting. Hopefully Ole Miss gets a strong compliance program and can stay away from trouble.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 6:33 am to LuckyTiger
The NCAA wont give the death penalty to any colleges that are part of major conferences with multi-million dollar television deals. There is too much money involved now and too many contracts with television. Too much collateral damage now. But with the belligerence Ole Miss has acted with, virtually spitting in everyone's faces throughout the whole process, purposefully damaging and attacking their accusers who obviously were being truthful, if ever the DP was justified then now is the time.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 6:43 am to LuckyTiger
I believe the NCAA recently made significant changes to the enforcement staff due the image of being soft. To my knowledge the OM case is their 1st test.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 6:44 am to SwaggerVance
Here's my perspective
PJ Fleck is an annoying frick
Row the boat my arse
And btw who are the "many" that believed psu didn't deserve punishment. Get your head examined. That's all kinds of retarded
PJ Fleck is an annoying frick
Row the boat my arse
And btw who are the "many" that believed psu didn't deserve punishment. Get your head examined. That's all kinds of retarded
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 6:46 am
Posted on 7/26/17 at 6:48 am to partsman103
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I believe the NCAA recently made significant changes to the enforcement staff due the image of being soft. To my knowledge the OM case is their 1st test.
While i like to lol at the rebs I fear the NCAA is going to turn them into a zombie program, it will take them a decade to recover.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 6:58 am to MeatPants
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who are the "many" that believed psu didn't deserve punishment
From what I remember, there were some that felt this was a "criminal" issue and should be handled by the courts, not the NCAA. Either way, PSU did not get their just due.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:02 am to cave canem
They'll get hit but won't be turned into a zombie.
I'll guess a two year bowl ban and the loss of 20 scholarships over three years.
That's it.
I'll guess a two year bowl ban and the loss of 20 scholarships over three years.
That's it.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:10 am to LuckyTiger
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They'll get hit but won't be turned into a zombie.
I'll guess a two year bowl ban and the loss of 20 scholarships over three years.
That's it.
While you could be right I don't think so, the LOIC is going to cut deeper than that, and this is not over yet.
I have a feeling the NCAA is going to bring out the hammer due to the way OM has handled this.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:16 am to cave canem
What do you think the sanctions could be?
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:18 am to LuckyTiger
Rebs will get hit hard but no death penalty.
The death penalty would happen only if they picked right back up as if nothing had happened. Then they'd be smited/smote.
The death penalty would happen only if they picked right back up as if nothing had happened. Then they'd be smited/smote.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:26 am to Jobu93
The last three schools to be hit with LOIC:
USC - loss of 30 scholarships over 3 years, 3 year bowl ban
Boise St - loss of 9 scholarships over 3 years, 1 year bowl ban
Miami - loss of 9 scholarships over 3 years, 2 year bowl ban
USC - loss of 30 scholarships over 3 years, 3 year bowl ban
Boise St - loss of 9 scholarships over 3 years, 1 year bowl ban
Miami - loss of 9 scholarships over 3 years, 2 year bowl ban
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:32 am to LuckyTiger
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USC - loss of 30 scholarships over 3 years, 3 year bowl ban
This is exactly what I think OM will get unless the gambling thing is proven then all bets are off.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:33 am to MeatPants
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And btw who are the "many" that believed psu didn't deserve punishment. Get your head examined. That's all kinds of retarded.
I am one of the many who believed PSU didn't deserve punishment. By the NCAA. PSU deserved punishment. By the courts. The entire school should have been shut down. But the NCAA should have stayed the phuck out of it. And they finally realized that which is why they dropped the remaining sanctions.
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 7:37 am
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:35 am to Barneyrb
I concur. USC got popped hard and I think this is probably what the Rebs can expect or something close to it.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:41 am to LuckyTiger
It's not hard .
Penn State threatened to sue because the NCAA was overstepping their authority and penalizing the school outside of their jurisdiction. UNC is making the same argument and may get away with it.
If OM wants to claim that the NCAA doesn't have the authority to say that universities can't buy hookers for football prospects, then they should make that case. Go for it rebs, put the NCAA in it's place
Penn State threatened to sue because the NCAA was overstepping their authority and penalizing the school outside of their jurisdiction. UNC is making the same argument and may get away with it.
If OM wants to claim that the NCAA doesn't have the authority to say that universities can't buy hookers for football prospects, then they should make that case. Go for it rebs, put the NCAA in it's place
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 7:50 am
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:41 am to Jobu93
There are measures available that are worse than the death penalty.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 8:13 am to SwaggerVance
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purposefully damaging and attacking their accusers who obviously were being truthful
Posted on 7/26/17 at 8:19 am to LuckyTiger
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USC - loss of 30 scholarships over 3 years, 3 year bowl ban
About what I think is likely here, the NCAA is trying to regain credibility and OM is serving themselves up on a plate.
For OM this would be a program killer for the foreseeable future for many reasons, they are not USC.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 8:34 am to ForLSU56
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From what I remember, there were some that felt this was a "criminal" issue and should be handled by the courts, not the NCAA. Either way, PSU did not get their just due.
I agree with that somewhat. It was a criminal issue but it did involve an institution and was on that institutions grounds. The NCAA violation wasn't "child rape" because there is no specific NCAA violation regarding "child rape". The violation was a catch all rule saying basically that an institution can't be found caught up in any criminal activity. The NCAA has no guideline saying one criminal activity is worse than another so basically to the NCAA Penn State could have been running a drug ring, involved in prostitution, killed people, or embezzlement. The crime makes no difference to the NCAA as far as the violation goes.
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