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re: I feel sick to my stomach reading these Alabama defensive stats
Posted on 4/3/15 at 9:10 pm to Bench McElroy
Posted on 4/3/15 at 9:10 pm to Bench McElroy
The solution is clearly to bench McElroy
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 9:30 pm to RogerTempleton
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lol wut?
And Ohio State was the 4th best team before the playoffs started. We would have beating Oregon easily. TCU would have been the only test.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 9:38 pm to BlackPawnMartyr
Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:23 pm to Bench McElroy
Dude, they've had bad CB play and offenses are just better now. If they can find they guys to put in the secondary with the players they have to choose from that are there, they'll be fine.
I actually think what Alabama is doing on offense should scare the frick out of people. Saban has been talking about doing some more stuff ok offense and is using more hurry up and shite. Did you see what they did with Sims and an average offensive line last year?
If they Saban keeps this offensive philosophy going, Alabama is going to murder fools.
I actually think what Alabama is doing on offense should scare the frick out of people. Saban has been talking about doing some more stuff ok offense and is using more hurry up and shite. Did you see what they did with Sims and an average offensive line last year?
If they Saban keeps this offensive philosophy going, Alabama is going to murder fools.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:33 pm to Bench McElroy
I think the decline in Bama's D is in direct relation to their change in offensive philosophy with Kiffin running the offense.
I tend to believe that a pass happy offense hurts the running game, and this carries over to hurt the identity of the defense. Bama prided themselves on scoring this year and not as much on defending. This is more in the mold of Auburn and A&M, and we have seen how those defenses are. I think one thing that keeps LSU's defense strong is the run first slow grind mentality that lends itself to a defense first mindsetted team. I think Saban may have lost a little bit of control and I don't think you can have your cake and eat it too, when it comes to high-flying offenses and stout defenses.
I tend to believe that a pass happy offense hurts the running game, and this carries over to hurt the identity of the defense. Bama prided themselves on scoring this year and not as much on defending. This is more in the mold of Auburn and A&M, and we have seen how those defenses are. I think one thing that keeps LSU's defense strong is the run first slow grind mentality that lends itself to a defense first mindsetted team. I think Saban may have lost a little bit of control and I don't think you can have your cake and eat it too, when it comes to high-flying offenses and stout defenses.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:37 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:Idk about the last part, but I will give Kiffin credit for squeezing out a lot of offense out of an offense with Sims in it. That said, Bama fans should temper their expectations. Amari Cooper was basically the primary weapon of your offense last season, and for a good reason of course. How will that offense perform now without a WR like that?
If they Saban keeps this offensive philosophy going, Alabama is going to murder fools.
Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:44 pm to pankReb
He had 3tds 0int haha
Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:47 pm to crimsontater
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however on 3rd and long, omg, we lose our freaking minds. we give up every yard necessary for the first down
Sounds familiar...
Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:52 pm to Kodar
I think it will be better. Maybe not next year, or the next. But in my opinion, last years Alabama offense won't be the best ever or anything. I think it has tons of room to get better as they focus more on an offense that scores tons of points.
I might be wrong, but people should be shocked at what Alabama was able to do. They didn't score points because it was fun last year. They had to get into the 30s and 40s just to win ballgames. And it should scare people(not actually scare them) that they were very good at doing that in basically year one of "holy frick our defense sucks we need to score a shite ton of points to make the playoff."
Is there any doubt that Alabama will be better on defense moving forward? It couldn't get much worse. And if you look at the secondary it's very easy to see why teams crushed Alabama through the air.
Yes, the offense was really good and Cooper is gone. But Alabama is going to have QBs in the near future who will be better than Sims. I love that guy and recognize the things that he did VERY well. But he was limited and there are even QBs on campus now that can be better than him.
I know this is coming off a bit homerish and I sound like a redneck screaming "God dammit this is Bama! We gone be gud forever!" I don't mean for it to sound like that. I just think some things passed them up(offenses who score at will) and now they're developing one of their own. Or at least attempting to.
Alabama used to hold teams to 14-17 or less and pound the ball for comfortable victories. Seems like they realize those days are over. Improve on defense(not much to ask) and keep the offense on the path it's going, and the years where Alabama has a really good Alabama team they'll be insanely good.
I might be wrong, but people should be shocked at what Alabama was able to do. They didn't score points because it was fun last year. They had to get into the 30s and 40s just to win ballgames. And it should scare people(not actually scare them) that they were very good at doing that in basically year one of "holy frick our defense sucks we need to score a shite ton of points to make the playoff."
Is there any doubt that Alabama will be better on defense moving forward? It couldn't get much worse. And if you look at the secondary it's very easy to see why teams crushed Alabama through the air.
Yes, the offense was really good and Cooper is gone. But Alabama is going to have QBs in the near future who will be better than Sims. I love that guy and recognize the things that he did VERY well. But he was limited and there are even QBs on campus now that can be better than him.
I know this is coming off a bit homerish and I sound like a redneck screaming "God dammit this is Bama! We gone be gud forever!" I don't mean for it to sound like that. I just think some things passed them up(offenses who score at will) and now they're developing one of their own. Or at least attempting to.
Alabama used to hold teams to 14-17 or less and pound the ball for comfortable victories. Seems like they realize those days are over. Improve on defense(not much to ask) and keep the offense on the path it's going, and the years where Alabama has a really good Alabama team they'll be insanely good.
This post was edited on 4/3/15 at 11:54 pm
Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:58 pm to Bench McElroy
Saban prides The fact his defense is built to stop Les Miles' dinosaur offense
Posted on 4/4/15 at 12:23 am to Bench McElroy
Offenses have evolved at a quicker rate than defenses have over the past several years. Saban has started to counteract this with a shift in personnel and scheme but inconsistent play at CB has made the transition slower than we'd like. Even still Alabama has ranked top 5 in defense adjusted for opponent strength the past two seasons.
I feel that '13s failures were largely due to inexperience; Fulton was the only CB with notable experience and for some reason he played like a trash heap.
Our options opposite Jones in '14 came down to a still recovering from surgery Jackson, Sylve who apparently caught whatever Fulton had and an extremely green Tony Brown. I'm personally taking a wait and see approach; two years isn't enough to establish a trend.
I feel that '13s failures were largely due to inexperience; Fulton was the only CB with notable experience and for some reason he played like a trash heap.
Our options opposite Jones in '14 came down to a still recovering from surgery Jackson, Sylve who apparently caught whatever Fulton had and an extremely green Tony Brown. I'm personally taking a wait and see approach; two years isn't enough to establish a trend.
Posted on 4/4/15 at 12:28 am to imraged
Bama fans say there has been a shift in personnel but I'm not sure I see it. Even if you recruit them lighter, but turn around and put all the beef on them in S&C does it really make for change?
Posted on 4/4/15 at 12:29 am to Bench McElroy
Bama is now a soft team on offense and defense. Saban and Kiffin are the reason. Bama has the best and deepest roster in the country. Bama could line and pound team after team with physical play and superior talent. That gets easier to do with each passing year. The more CFB teams go to the pass-centric speed offenses, the harder it would be for them to deal with a physical Bama team.
At some point Saban started panicking about all the scoring going on in CFB or maybe it was just the two games against the Aggies. At a time his normal approach will excel, he is trying to mimic the lesser programs.
I was very shocked that he retained Kiffin another year. Saban has really changed, and that is not a good thing for Bama.
At some point Saban started panicking about all the scoring going on in CFB or maybe it was just the two games against the Aggies. At a time his normal approach will excel, he is trying to mimic the lesser programs.
I was very shocked that he retained Kiffin another year. Saban has really changed, and that is not a good thing for Bama.
Posted on 4/4/15 at 12:33 am to gatordmb89
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gatordmb89
What has McElwain said about the offense he will run at UF?
Posted on 4/4/15 at 12:37 am to TTsTowel
If a team has any offense whatsoever Auburn will roll over and blow their coverage on purpose so the offense can get back on the field because that's all Gus Malzahn knows how to coach. "Alright guys we're gonna run the exact same play 60,000 times in one game as fast as possible because I actually have no idea how to line up and outsmart someone so I have to call a game like the 13 year whose parents bought them Madden"
Glad he hired Muschamp though. God knows he has a good track record against Alabama.
Glad he hired Muschamp though. God knows he has a good track record against Alabama.
Posted on 4/4/15 at 12:40 am to gatordmb89
quote:I understand, and should probably slow down. But Alabama has been better than any other team in the West at adapting it changing what they do.
Bama fans say there has been a shift in personnel but I'm not sure I see it. Even if you recruit them lighter, but turn around and put all the beef on them in S&C does it really make for change?
I'm not trying to be a dick, but LSU's offense has been a damn joke. Arkansas is improving with their running and good defense philosophy. Gus is really good at adapting his offense to the players he has, but the defense is so bad. A&M is a mystery to me.
It was fun to make fun of Alabama for losing last season, but how are they not insanely impressive? Their faults have been well documented and if you're honest, they SHOULD be fixed. At least enough to mKe considerable improvements from last year(defense). But I really think if they continue with this all out assault on offense that they'll pass up everyone again. Not predicting another run of titles again or anything, but below average Alabama teams have come dangerously close to winning these past few years. And unlike many other SEC teams, Alabama is showing real "want" to adapt the way they need/have to.
Posted on 4/4/15 at 12:43 am to bona fide
quote:I don't agree with this at all. I think Alabama is about to be in a perfect situation, a happy medium, between good defense, and offense that can score points but be physical when it needs.
Bama is now a soft team on offense and defense. Saban and Kiffin are the reason. Bama has the best and deepest roster in the country. Bama could line and pound team after team with physical play and superior talent. That gets easier to do with each passing year. The more CFB teams go to the pass-centric speed offenses, the harder it would be for them to deal with a physical Bama team. At some point Saban started panicking about all the scoring going on in CFB or maybe it was just the two games against the Aggies. At a time his normal approach will excel, he is trying to mimic the lesser programs. I was very shocked that he retained Kiffin another year. Saban has really changed, and that is not a good thing for Bama.
Posted on 4/4/15 at 12:44 am to bona fide
The media is very limited, they get about 15 mins to start each practice. Apparently McElwain has a hard on for 3 WR sets as well as 2TE sets. All sets are singleback unless a 3rd TE motions into H back role. Given UF's current WR situation I expect him to depend heavily on the RB's, PA passing gm.
Posted on 4/4/15 at 12:52 am to gatordmb89
Sounds like his CSU years. He opened the offense up more as the QB developed
Was lethal at Bama with PA game and last year with Hart in the backfield.
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PA passing gm.
Was lethal at Bama with PA game and last year with Hart in the backfield.
Posted on 4/4/15 at 1:29 am to bona fide
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Bama could line and pound team after team with physical play and superior talent.
We had neither the RBs (particularly with Yeldon dealing with injuries the majority of the season) nor the Oline to do this on offense without a balanced attack.
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