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re: How have Bama's Ingram, Richardson and Lacy all bulked up to the same size?

Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:08 pm to
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
40110 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:08 pm to
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* Initially top-star level athletes in high school. These kids start out big and strong. Some might even say that their potential to get bigger, stronger, and faster is part of why they were recruited in the first place.

* They arrive at school where for the first time, their diets are monitored and managed more than ever before.

* They begin workouts with a true strength and conditioning coach, not just the volunteer history teacher down at the high school.

* Their workouts occur on top notch equipment, not broken down 30 year old nautilus machines - developing muscles and techniques they have never used before.

* They are pushed by their competition and the new recruits who are hungry to take their spot on the field.


None of that happens at any other school.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30212 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:10 pm to
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Is this another PED conspiracy thread. You guys need to stop this dumb shite...
Yep, and I thought it was just the dumb Aub's bringing this shite over from ITAT.

Now the damn LSU fans are bringing this shite to the table.

Posted by JBearden
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2011
2657 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:10 pm to
Richardson was huge even in high school. The guy lived for workouts.
Posted by razthecat
Bay Minette, AL
Member since Oct 2010
2352 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:11 pm to
U mirin? I hear they all like to ride bikes.
Posted by jeff1545
birmingham
Member since Nov 2007
105 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:12 pm to
Look at Derrick Henry incoming freshman RB
.He is huge.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30212 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:13 pm to
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* Initially top-star level athletes in high school. These kids start out big and strong. Some might even say that their potential to get bigger, stronger, and faster is part of why they were recruited in the first place.

* They arrive at school where for the first time, their diets are monitored and managed more than ever before.

* They begin workouts with a true strength and conditioning coach, not just the volunteer history teacher down at the high school.

* Their workouts occur on top notch equipment, not broken down 30 year old nautilus machines - developing muscles and techniques they have never used before.

* They are pushed by their competition and the new recruits who are hungry to take their spot on the field.
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None of that happens at any other school.
I'm sure it happens at every elite program these days. What's your point?

Both LSU & UGA took Bama to the wire this year - played them toe to fricking toe - either team could have won those games. Does LSU or UGA do anything differently with their weight/conditioning program than Bama does? 'Cause both those teams looked just as strong and powerful as Bama looked, AND played damn good football too.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
40110 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:14 pm to
Y'all juice more.
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
5513 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:17 pm to
Back when I was an athlete at Miami in the mid 1980s there was a team directed steroid program through the strength coach.

I'm really skeptical that happens today. I have no doubt there's still a ton of PED use but it's on more of an individual/teammates helping each other out type basis.
Posted by GeauxWarTigers
Auburn
Member since Oct 2010
18046 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:19 pm to
Just looked up the weights for Hilliard, Hill, and Ford. They have gained 13, 15, and 16 pounds respectively since arriving on campus.

Two of those guys have only been out of highschool for 2 years, by next year they might have put on 20 pounds. Ford is known for his speed, so he might not want to put on as much weight.
Posted by okpoman
Seabrook, TX
Member since Sep 2006
130 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:19 pm to
Coz when yur dumb, ya gotta be tuff....
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37247 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:22 pm to
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None of that happens at any other school.


Yeah because Ware, Ford, and Hill are small dudes.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22153 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:23 pm to
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Look at Derrick Henry incoming freshman RB



If he puts on 20 pounds he will be playing DE. Kid is a beast.

Also as an LSU fan we dont have much room to talk with LaRon Steroid Landry just a few years ago.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30212 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:24 pm to
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Y'all juice more.


We win more too.
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
3941 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:25 pm to
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U mirin? I hear they all like to ride bikes


BBdotcom called, they'd like they're awful lingo back.

But I at my desk.
This post was edited on 1/8/13 at 12:25 pm
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30212 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:25 pm to
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Look at Derrick Henry incoming freshman RB
.He is huge.
He's a hoss right this minute and he hasn't stepped foot into the Bama S&C program.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
44365 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:30 pm to
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Just looked up the weights for Hilliard, Hill, and Ford. They have gained 13, 15, and 16 pounds respectively since arriving on campus.



Most players continue to gain weight all the way through their 2nd or 3rd season in the NFL. Putting on 15-20 pounds during 4 years of college really isn't anything out of the ordinary if a guy has an unfilled frame when he arrives on campus. The human body doesn't even stop growing until 21-23.

No idea why anyone thinks it is just a Bama phenomenon. Did no one see Todd Gurley this year? Motherfricker is huge. Lattimore is huge. Hill is huge. The 6'1" 225 pound power back has become somewhat commonplace in the SEC.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30212 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:50 pm to
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No idea why anyone thinks it is just a Bama phenomenon. Did no one see Todd Gurley this year? Motherfricker is huge. Lattimore is huge. Hill is huge. The 6'1" 225 pound power back has become somewhat commonplace in the SEC.
Because some people absolutely HAVE to create shite to explain why certain programs are consistantly dominant.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27305 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 1:16 pm to
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* Initially top-star level athletes in high school. These kids start out big and strong. Some might even say that their potential to get bigger, stronger, and faster is part of why they were recruited in the first place. * They arrive at school where for the first time, their diets are monitored and managed more than ever before. * They begin workouts with a true strength and conditioning coach, not just the volunteer history teacher down at the high school. * Their workouts occur on top notch equipment, not broken down 30 year old nautilus machines - developing muscles and techniques they have never used before. * They are pushed by their competition and the new recruits who are hungry to take their spot on the field. * They are driven by a master motivator with a proven level of success - multiple national championships at the highest level. They know he has a track record of preparing his recruits to go to the next level, the NFL. ========= Nah, it can't be any of that, it must be steroids.
Apparently you don't workout.

No football players are using Nautilus machines. They use free weights. Also, the best football players coming out of high school often go to a place that trains athletes.

Secondly, there is a such thing as genetic potential. The bigger you get, the harder it is and the longer it takes to build a smaller amount of muscle.

Once you are already developed from years of working out, 10 pounds of muscle per year is about the most you could possibly hope for naturally. Plus, players lose weight throughout the football season.

My brother plays college baseball, and they all lose weight throughout the season because they aren't lifting like they do in the offseason.

So it would be hard to build even just 10 pounds of muscle when you are an athlete and not a bodybuilder.

So if you see an athlete who was already built coming out of high school get a lot bigger in college, it is 100% steroids. And I'm not saying any particular player is on them, I'm just giving information.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
16968 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 1:27 pm to
Lacy doesn't look that muscular to me. At least not like this



Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54132 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 1:28 pm to
Gayest post of the year. Congrats.
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