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How far will new philosophy set UF back?
Posted on 12/9/10 at 9:50 pm
Posted on 12/9/10 at 9:50 pm
You guys think that the unbelievable talent on the roster would thrive in any system or are they more "system type guys"? Ya think UF is in for a couple more rebuilding years if they don't hire a "spread guy"?
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Posted on 12/9/10 at 9:51 pm to CrimsonChin
they have loads of talent... I doubt it would be much at all...
Posted on 12/9/10 at 9:52 pm to CrimsonChin
Depends what kind of coach they get and how flexible he is. One of the things that made Meyer so good was the fact that he could adapt his system to fit the talent. That 2006 coaching job has got to be one of the best jobs of putting together a patchwork offense that I've ever seen.
Posted on 12/9/10 at 9:52 pm to CrimsonChin
To answer simply. No.
The right coach will get them back where they were quickly.
The right coach will get them back where they were quickly.
Posted on 12/9/10 at 9:55 pm to CrimsonChin
If anything it will be good for them, it was obvious this year that they were trying to make the system work with players not fit for it. I think CUM had recruited based on stars more than compatibility with his schemes.
Posted on 12/9/10 at 10:06 pm to Esarhaddon
I think they will be fine either route they go. There is so much speed on that team that running the spread is no problem. Brantley would do just fine running a pro-style offense also.
Posted on 12/9/10 at 10:44 pm to CrimsonChin
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You guys think that the unbelievable talent on the roster would thrive in any system or are they more "system type guys"? Ya think UF is in for a couple more rebuilding years if they don't hire a "spread guy"?
They had that "great talent" this year too ya know, and they went 7-5.
Who knows? With a coaching change there is almost always a year or two hangover.
Posted on 12/9/10 at 11:20 pm to ThirdAndChavis1234
Considering that this year was not spectacular you could make a legit case that with the right coach they are the team to beat in the East. They do not lack talent, the only question is whether or not the new coaches offensive schemes match the personnel.
With that said I disagree that Mullen is the best choice simply because right now they do not seem to have the personnel to run the same offense they had been running. If they did Meyer would have won more games this year.
With that said I disagree that Mullen is the best choice simply because right now they do not seem to have the personnel to run the same offense they had been running. If they did Meyer would have won more games this year.
Posted on 12/10/10 at 3:01 am to hobo with a rolex
It's pretty rare to have a coach hit the ground running. Meyer is one of the few coaches I've ever seen do that in recent memory.
If you take a list of the top coaches and their performances in their first year, this is what you get:
Nick Saban [LSU]: 8-4
Nick Saban [Bama]: 6-6
Bob Stoops [OU]: 7-5
Pete Carroll [USC]: 6-6
Jim Tressel [OSU]: 7-5
Urban Meyer: [UF]: 9-3
Bobby Petrino: [Ark]: 5-7
:nb4bobbypetrinoisnotelitecoach:
Les Miles [LSU]: 11-2
Steve Spurrier [UF]: 9-2
Mack Brown [UT]: 9-3
Mack Brown [UNC]: 1-10
Chip Kelly [UO]: 10-3
Jim Harbaugh [Stanford]: 4-7
Frank Beamer [VaTech]: 2-9
If you take a list of the top coaches and their performances in their first year, this is what you get:
Nick Saban [LSU]: 8-4
Nick Saban [Bama]: 6-6
Bob Stoops [OU]: 7-5
Pete Carroll [USC]: 6-6
Jim Tressel [OSU]: 7-5
Urban Meyer: [UF]: 9-3
Bobby Petrino: [Ark]: 5-7
:nb4bobbypetrinoisnotelitecoach:
Les Miles [LSU]: 11-2
Steve Spurrier [UF]: 9-2
Mack Brown [UT]: 9-3
Mack Brown [UNC]: 1-10
Chip Kelly [UO]: 10-3
Jim Harbaugh [Stanford]: 4-7
Frank Beamer [VaTech]: 2-9
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Posted on 12/10/10 at 6:35 am to DiafGtfo
Really tough schedule in conference next year, FSU is better, It could be a rough first year.
But the coach has a fertile foundation on which to build. A really good coach could honestly come in to Florida and win 10 or 11 games with the talent Florida has gotten from the last few recruiting classes.
But the coach has a fertile foundation on which to build. A really good coach could honestly come in to Florida and win 10 or 11 games with the talent Florida has gotten from the last few recruiting classes.
Posted on 12/10/10 at 6:38 am to CrimsonChin
It's not like the current set up was setting the world on fire... I wouldn't think it would be any further than it wouldn've been with Meyer/Addazio.
They need a running back that weighs more than 180 lbs.
They need a running back that weighs more than 180 lbs.
Posted on 12/10/10 at 7:35 am to CrimsonChin
I think they should hire Houston Nutt, he is really good at taking over other people's talent and getting them to perform at 100%. They could then use the next two seasons of BCS bowls to line up who they REALLY want to be their head coach. They better not be greedy though, after those two years his own recruits will start to "shine" and well, it goes down hill from there.
Posted on 12/10/10 at 7:41 am to jdevers
Nutt I think we were a PK away from a little better season. I think injuries to Demps, and RBs really impacted what we could do. I expect at least 3 loses next year, given our brutal schedule. It depends on how good the Bama QB turns out to be, and how bad Auburn looks.
I think GAg, and TN will be hell games.
We shall see.
Posted on 12/10/10 at 7:45 am to CrimsonChin
the major issue with changing systems is finding a quarterback. UF has QBs to run both a spread-option system or a passing system. They'll probably have to stop recruiting those 5'8" 150 pound RBs with a non-spread option system, but that's about the only adjustment
Posted on 12/10/10 at 8:04 am to usc6158
Are you sure about that?
Reed didn't practice until the season started because he was injured.
Now there are a lot of reports that Brantley's injuries after the Bama game were significant (ribs, and thumb). That actually explains a lot.
I'm not saying that they will be great QBs. I'm saying they could be a heck of a lot better than they were this year, given than our OC was clueless, and Urban didn't know what to do with Brantley.
And lord we are all hoping Driskell sticks.
Reed didn't practice until the season started because he was injured.
Now there are a lot of reports that Brantley's injuries after the Bama game were significant (ribs, and thumb). That actually explains a lot.
I'm not saying that they will be great QBs. I'm saying they could be a heck of a lot better than they were this year, given than our OC was clueless, and Urban didn't know what to do with Brantley.
And lord we are all hoping Driskell sticks.
Posted on 12/10/10 at 8:09 am to austingator
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Reed didn't practice until the season started because he was injured.
Now there are a lot of reports that Brantley's injuries after the Bama game were significant (ribs, and thumb). That actually explains a lot.
I'm not saying that they will be great QBs. I'm saying they could be a heck of a lot better than they were this year, given than our OC was clueless, and Urban didn't know what to do with Brantley.
is that not what I said
If they hire someone who runs a passing offense, Brantley isn't great, but he's good enough. If they hire someone who runs a spread-option, Reed or Burton should eventually be good
It's not going to be like Michigan where it takes 3 years to find a QB to run the system
Posted on 12/10/10 at 8:27 am to usc6158
oh sorry, reading fast doesn't help 
I'm hoping we get a good coach. I don't care if it is a pro style or spread.
I'm hoping we get a good coach. I don't care if it is a pro style or spread.
Posted on 12/10/10 at 8:30 am to CrimsonChin
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How far will new philosophy set UF back
I'd give it a week, maybe two.
Posted on 12/10/10 at 8:37 am to CrimsonChin
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How far will new philosophy set UF back?
No. There might be a blip on the screen in 2011—an 8-4 or 9-3 season maybe—but UF will be fine in the long run. Too much talent, plus all the re$ources to hire a heavyweight coach—that's not a recipe for failure.
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