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re: How different would the programs be if ok state hadn't lost in 2011?
Posted on 6/11/17 at 9:06 pm to Korin
Posted on 6/11/17 at 9:06 pm to Korin
Yes there is. Oklahoma State had one of the worst run defenses in the country and LSU was averaging over 250 yards/game on the ground.
The reason Ok. State beat Stanford is because Shaw was too stupid to keep running the ball at 9 ypc.
The reason Ok. State beat Stanford is because Shaw was too stupid to keep running the ball at 9 ypc.
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Posted on 6/11/17 at 9:07 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 9:19 pm to nc14
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That team wasn't out scoring anyone on Jan 9.
LSU would have curb stomped Ok. State. There's really no question about it.
Posted on 6/11/17 at 9:21 pm to ChewyDante
Miles would still be at LAU and Bama would still be in the exact same spot as right now, just one less natty.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 11:01 pm to ChewyDante
How would you score, or cross midfield?
Posted on 6/12/17 at 11:03 pm to NFLU
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Saban had never left for Alabama, LSU would have been the premier program in the country.
Uh, LSU only had one season where it's only loss was Bama. Most seasons they lost more than 2.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 11:14 pm to cajunbama
He's probably right. They at least win the SEC in 05 and their 06 team wins it all.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 11:15 pm to Korin
Bama lost to them both of those years
Posted on 6/12/17 at 11:23 pm to cajunbama
The turning point Ryan Perrilloux being stupid and getting kicked off the team. That started a downward spiral in Les Miles coaching. RP leaving created a huge hole are QB and forced LM to play Lee and Jefferson way before they were ready. Lee threw 6 pick sixes that season and Les was never the same. He never fully trusted to turn a QB loose. He coached scared every year after that. Even in 2013 with Mett, Hill, Beckham and Jarvis he still held back on the reins. That is the real reason LSU never developed a QB. He never gave a QB enough slack to make mistakes and learn.
This post was edited on 6/12/17 at 11:24 pm
Posted on 6/13/17 at 3:54 am to Macbeth
If my aunt had a dick she'd be buttfricking ur mom
Posted on 6/13/17 at 4:32 am to cajunbama
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Uh, LSU only had one season where it's only loss was Bama. Most seasons they lost more than 2.
Yeah discipline was the issue with the Les coached team. So many areas to cite...
But as far as Bama vs LSU goes since 2011, The home games were very close and could have been won by LSU with just the flip of a single play. In fact, LSU pretty well dominated both games except where it counted. The away games weren't really close but respectable.
LSU would not have been as dominate as Bama the past few years but certainly may have had a different feel for Les. Bama has simply out recruited everyone and that wouldn't have been different with just one or two LSU wins sprinkled in.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 5:24 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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The reason Ok. State beat Stanford is because Shaw was too stupid to keep running the ball at 9 ypc.
Stanford ran the ball 50 of their 81 plays in that game.
This post was edited on 6/13/17 at 5:27 am
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:09 am to StlPoke
Ok St would have lost by alot. LSU destroyed a better Oregon team with a similar offense. LSU would have been a bad match up for Ok St.
ETA: The game I really wanted to see was LSU vs USCw in 2003.
ETA: The game I really wanted to see was LSU vs USCw in 2003.
This post was edited on 6/13/17 at 9:10 am
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:26 am to Macbeth
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Macbeth
FIFY
How different would the programs be if 8 Human Poll voters in the BCS hadn't DROPPED Oklahoma State from 3rd......to 5th or 6th, """"AFTER"""" they destroyed Oklahoma to win the Big 12 title?
How different would the programs be if those voters hadn't IGNORED the BCS rules and the BCS administrators IGNORED the supposed agreed upon criteria - which included Strength of Schedule, or IGNORED the prevailing thought that if Oklahoma State DID destroy Oklahoma, they would jump Alabama by virtue of the AGREED UPON BCS CALCULATION CRITERIA - which included strength of schedule.
NOT TO MENTION - that Oklahoma State was a conference champion, and alabama was the THIRD PLACE TEAM in their conference (Georgia and LSU played for the SEC Title.)
How different would the programs be if the BCS HAD NOT allowed
"""""""""""""" T H E......M E D I A """""""""""""
to decide who should face 13-0 #1 ranked SEC Champ LSU in the NCG.
Because that's what happened. The media wanted a
DO-OVER, A MULLIGAN, A REPLAY.
No excuses. Biggest travesty in the history of sport.
And for the ala-shame-a fans who dismiss all the above as "he mad", or "boo hoo hoo" or "we were the best team", etc, etc,
SORRRRRRRYYYY - them's the FACTS. That's how it happened.
alabama did """"""""""""""" N O T """"""""""""""" belong in that game, nor did they deserve to, no matter how much Saban cried at halftime of the SECCG, no matter how much the media wanted a do-over.
That was criminal what was done to OSU and LSU.
FIFY
How different would the programs be if ok state hadn't lost in 2011? by Macbeth
Would miles still be at LSU? Would Bama be the dominant program it is now?
This post was edited on 6/13/17 at 9:31 am
Posted on 6/13/17 at 10:26 am to MetryTyger
Never change, MetryTyger. Never change.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 11:05 am to MetryTyger
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And for the ala-shame-a fans who dismiss all the above as "he mad", or "boo hoo hoo" or "we were the best team", etc, etc,
Bama's "being the best team" is the debate point. Maybe they were the best team that year. They weren't in November. They were in January.
Here is the thing though. Their are a lot of sports teams that most would agree were the best in their year that didn't win a championship. Teams like Phi Slamma Jamma had unbelievable talent (Drexler, Hakeem, etc). But they failed their opportunity to be champion. NC St beat them. Could the Wolfpack have won a second game though? Not remotely likely. If NC St had played them in the Elite 8, would the NCAA have said well we still think Houston is better, so we are going to bump somebody out so Houston can have another shot. They are clearly the best team to play in the finals.
Alabama failed their opportunity (at home even) that year, and should not have been given the chance for a do over. Best team or not.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 11:05 am to Macbeth
Bama would still have kicked our teeth in sadly the following 6 games 
Posted on 6/13/17 at 11:18 am to Korin
Especially if Jefferson continued his stellar play from the SEC and BCS championship game
Posted on 6/13/17 at 11:19 am to Macbeth
Yes, Miles would still be at LSU.
Yes, Bama would still be right where they are now.
My guess is that LSU fans would still be upset with Miles lack of beating Bama, but those 2 Natoinal Titles would make it impossible for anyone to fire him.
Yes, Bama would still be right where they are now.
My guess is that LSU fans would still be upset with Miles lack of beating Bama, but those 2 Natoinal Titles would make it impossible for anyone to fire him.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 12:08 pm to MetryTyger
You left out the FACT that Okie State lost to a terrible ISU team AFTER the 9-6 anomaly
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