re: Honestly, Bama loss is looking worse and worse.

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I've already done so. I'm not bitching or whining actually.

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I don't think there are teams at this point that stack up to Bama as far as 1 loss teams, but those teams also have backloaded schedules so I see that debate becoming more and more controversial.

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Alabama is also going to play another top 20 team this week, although by your logic it won't matter since they won't be ranked after Alabama beats them. And a top 10 Florida team if they win out as well.

There's a reason a team's schedule has the rank of each team on it BEFORE they play right? Because as soon as you lose, your rank goes down, which isn't exactly fair to the team that won is it?


"Alabama beats #2 LSU!"

"Well actually, they're more like #7 now, because Alabama beat them"

"Alabama beats #8, undefeated UGA!"

"Well actually, they started losing games after losing to Bama, and after losing their Heisman hopeful running back, so let's discredit that win"


"Alabama beats #9 TAMU after they went 5 games undefeated and had wins over two ranked teams!"


"Nah, they started sucking after that, let's scrutinize Bama for it"

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To say Bama can line up and beat anyone seems logical, but we have no way of seeing that scenario or knowing if that is actually true. It's just our perception.

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Holy shite you're just ignoring the evidence that is answering your own question.

They're ranked there because by both human and computer evidence their strength of record (even with a loss), is on par with Clemson's, better than OSU's, and better than ND's.

I hate to have Ohio State that high, but they are undefeated and won last year going undefeated. I don't think they have actually earned it. Notre Dame and Alabama is close as of now and be flip flopped. Bama will have more advantages in it's favor and it shouldn't matter. I think the idea that Notre Dame could have just as easily won that game against Clemson is a big factor for me. I don't see Bama in any situation coming back from 43-24 on Ole Miss.

In a week's time, all of that can change. 5th is not a bad position anyway considering you can go on the road and pick up your 2nd biggest SEC win, Wisconsin is looking good, an SEC championship is in sight. No need to be so sensitive. Bama wins and they are in. I could easily have them 4th instead of 5th. No big deal right now.

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I don't see Bama in any situation coming back from 43-37 on Ole Miss.

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Except they were driving the ball downfield with a minute left and down by 6. So yeah, they could have won that game, even with all the uncharacteristic and crazy things that happened in that game.

It was a bad loss, and I don't understand how you can't understand that a team can improve dramatically, and having a team improve and beat three top 10 teams after that, intermingled with a bunch of solid clubs that like to pull upsets, is a good thing.

Look at OSU last year. They lost to a lowly VT team in the beginning of the season. Everyone thought they were done. Guess what happened? They came back and were the best team last year when it was all said and done. Would it have been fair to leave out OSU last year because they had a bad loss? Hell no. Because at the end of the season they had the body of work to prove they were better than that.

I do understand that and I have posted many comments about it. I believe even in the OP. It was a bad loss. It's treated differently though. Their SOS and quality of play supports any ranking you feel the need to give them, but I just don't see why Bama is deserving of a ranking ahead of all undefeated teams except one and I really don't see them far ahead of some of the 1 loss teams. I just see it differently. I expect them to be a favorite to win still and anticipate that I would rank them somewhere within the top 3 if they win out.

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have a ranking that is honest about what has actually happened rather than what we perceive likely to happen

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I don't think the current ranking is far from that outside of Bama's position being a couple of spots too high. Their ranking of 4th a week ago was more off base in my opinion, but now would be justified, which is exactly what I anticipated and exactly why I made the post. They should be around 4th.

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Bama is deserving of a ranking ahead of all undefeated teams except one

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You argue that Georgia and ATM are no longer good wins because they have lost games, but you're in favor of putting Baylor (who has yet to play a team with a winning record) above Alabama?

"Oh those teams were undefeated when they played Bama, but that doesn't matter, they've lost since then. Baylor? Yeah they're undefeated still. So what if they haven't played anyone."

Give Georgia and TAMU the combined schedules of Baylor, TCU and OKstate (before this past weekend), and do you honestly believe they would have a single loss?

No. Because you don't think that
Lamar
SMU
Rice
Akron
SFA
Minnesota
TTU
Texas
ISU
KSU
Kansas
WVU
CMU
UTSA
UCA

would beat Georgia or TAMU. Or at least I really hope you don't. And those are all the teams that those three have played (before the TCU vs OK state game)

And therein lies the point. The BIG12 is a sham. It has been for a long while now. They schedule no one, and put all their contenders in the last three weeks of the season so that if one of them comes out of those "brutal" last three weeks, they're in. But when you look closely, they're only brutal because the teams have maintained an inflated ranking for 8-9 weeks.


The thing is, it's about the body of work, and your strength of record.

Florida would be interesting if they would win out.