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re: Hey Richt, can you take a hint?
Posted on 8/7/08 at 8:11 pm to DanBobUGA
Posted on 8/7/08 at 8:11 pm to DanBobUGA
He had a point, if I read it right. If you kicked every student out of college for drinking underage or having an altercation then schools would have to shutdown since they would making zero money due to the lack of bodies on campus.
At least they weren't pulling guns or knives on people, actual violent crimes
At least they weren't pulling guns or knives on people, actual violent crimes
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Posted on 8/7/08 at 8:26 pm to DallasDawg
Georgia has made a habit of embarrassing the SEC with its lax discipline and ability to fold like a cheap tent when the pressure is on. I have a feeling they will pull the same stunt again this year.
Posted on 8/7/08 at 8:30 pm to genuineLSUtiger
what is this uga choking bullshite? we lost to west vrginia in the sugar bowl by 3?
Posted on 8/7/08 at 8:31 pm to genuineLSUtiger
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Georgia has made a habit of embarrassing the SEC with its lax discipline and ability to fold like a cheap tent when the pressure is on. I have a feeling they will pull the same stunt again this year.
UGA embarrassing the SEC? So your own school, Bama, Auburn, UT, UF, UK, etc., have done nothing of the sort? Hmm...I think you just have a bone to pick with the Dawgs.
Fold like a cheap tent? Didn't you mean "chair?" But anyway, how so exactly? What "clutch" games are you referring to? They've lost one SEC Championship game since Richt has been there. 2 for 3 ain't bad. And if I remember correctly, they had the same exact SEC conference record as your Tigers did last year. If anything, LSU has benefited greatly from playing in the weaker side of the conference
Posted on 8/7/08 at 9:53 pm to DallasDawg
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At least they weren't pulling guns or knives on people, actual violent crimes
It's sad that we even have to try and make this justification.
I'm not saying that this is unique to UGA, or even that it isn't to a very small - nay infinitessimal - degree expected, but as the top team in the nation, and the flagship of the conference, we should strive to be the best of the best, and that means staying out of the police blotter as much as possible.
Still only seventh in the Fulmer Cup Standings - FWIW
Posted on 8/7/08 at 9:58 pm to DanBobUGA
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and the flagship of the conference,
Um, easy there...
Posted on 8/7/08 at 9:58 pm to DallasDawg
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If anything, LSU has benefited greatly from playing in the weaker side of the conference
Interesting that I never thought of it that way, but I think you make a lot of sense.
Not that either side of the conference is particularly easy to win, but the East is definitely the harder of the two (at least it has been in the past few years.)
Might not be the case with KY in a rebuilding cycle, but then again so is ARK and the jury is still out on BAMA and MISS ST/OLE MISS.
As to his assertion about the "folding," I'm assuming he's referring to either FLA or TENN. Either one I would say is a respectable loss, but it gets back to the credibility issue that we need to earn to rightfully ascend to the national power level.
Posted on 8/7/08 at 10:09 pm to DanBobUGA
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but the East is definitely the harder of the two (at least it has been in the past few years.)
the numbers disagree with you. ask Florida how tough it is to beat a top team from the West the last 2-3 years.
This post was edited on 8/7/08 at 10:12 pm
Posted on 8/7/08 at 10:18 pm to KennesawTiger
Weak half of the conference or not we still have to play in the SEC championship game and kick your little east asses. So go on home and keep telling yourselves your in the better half. Wait you didnt even win your half of the conference.
Posted on 8/7/08 at 10:18 pm to KennesawTiger
Really? Link?
Sorry, not trying to make it difficult, but outside of LSU and Auburn, I'm trying to see how 3 - 6 stack up:
LSU
AUB
ALA
MSU
ARK
MISS
FLA/UGA/TENN
SCar
KY
Vandy
I agree that AUB/LSU are very tough draws. However, I still would say that it's harder (looking solely at division) to win the East than the West.
Sorry, not trying to make it difficult, but outside of LSU and Auburn, I'm trying to see how 3 - 6 stack up:
LSU
AUB
ALA
MSU
ARK
MISS
FLA/UGA/TENN
SCar
KY
Vandy
I agree that AUB/LSU are very tough draws. However, I still would say that it's harder (looking solely at division) to win the East than the West.
Posted on 8/7/08 at 10:22 pm to DanBobUGA
im waiting danbob for your response
Posted on 8/7/08 at 10:26 pm to CokeZero
What exactly do you want me to say?
We lost the tiebreaker to TENN. Point?
I'm not trying to make some silly argument that we deserved to play in the championship game....
If anything that proves my point in a convoluted sort of way. There's more parity in the East than the West, therefore the road is tougher on our half of the conference.
Sure, you won the head to head vs. TENN, but that doesn't detract from my point that getting to be the East rep is harder. Did I miss something?
We lost the tiebreaker to TENN. Point?
I'm not trying to make some silly argument that we deserved to play in the championship game....
If anything that proves my point in a convoluted sort of way. There's more parity in the East than the West, therefore the road is tougher on our half of the conference.
Sure, you won the head to head vs. TENN, but that doesn't detract from my point that getting to be the East rep is harder. Did I miss something?
Posted on 8/7/08 at 10:30 pm to Peachtree Tiger
Why can't we play UK this year... :(
Posted on 8/7/08 at 10:34 pm to DanBobUGA
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therefore the road is tougher
How was last year so hard compared to LSU? We play Florida every year which is the best team in the east year in and year out. We played USC as well, we also got a piece of UT. Sure we stumbled in lexington in overtime after coming off a very emotional victory against a very good UF team. So what is your point? Bama is on its way up (hate to say it). Auburn is consistent plus Ole miss just upgraded coaches, Miss st. has a great coach, and ark just got a very good coach. IMO fulmer is gonna lose his job real soon. Spurrier can't recruit in USC (except for 1 year) and Vandy and Kentucky arent going anywhere. If anything the west is going up and the east is going down.
Posted on 8/7/08 at 10:49 pm to CokeZero
I feel like we're arguing two different points entirely
You're saying that it was harder for LSU to win the division because of the teams you drew out of the East.
I'm saying that just on the face of it, I think it's harder to win the East than it is to win the West.
Leave the other side of the conference out of it:
East: FLA, UGA, TENN, SCar, KY, Vandy
West: LSU, AUB, ALA, Miss St., ARK, Ole Miss
If we're being academically honest, the first 3 are a wash.
It ultimately comes down to if you think that SCar, KY, and Vandy are a tougher slate than MISS St., ARK, and OLE MISS.
You added some new coaches, true, and that may pay off down the line. Right now, though, I'd say that more stabiliy + talent = east advantage.
I'll leave HDN out of this, because personally I think he's going to do wonders for Ole Miss.
Do you think Petrino will see much success in Yr. 1? Sure, Miss. St. had some wins last year, but do you really think that they're going to be substantially better than SCar this year?
Just questions...
You're saying that it was harder for LSU to win the division because of the teams you drew out of the East.
I'm saying that just on the face of it, I think it's harder to win the East than it is to win the West.
Leave the other side of the conference out of it:
East: FLA, UGA, TENN, SCar, KY, Vandy
West: LSU, AUB, ALA, Miss St., ARK, Ole Miss
If we're being academically honest, the first 3 are a wash.
It ultimately comes down to if you think that SCar, KY, and Vandy are a tougher slate than MISS St., ARK, and OLE MISS.
You added some new coaches, true, and that may pay off down the line. Right now, though, I'd say that more stabiliy + talent = east advantage.
I'll leave HDN out of this, because personally I think he's going to do wonders for Ole Miss.
Do you think Petrino will see much success in Yr. 1? Sure, Miss. St. had some wins last year, but do you really think that they're going to be substantially better than SCar this year?
Just questions...
Posted on 8/7/08 at 10:51 pm to Archie Bengal Bunker
Payback maybe?
Posted on 8/8/08 at 6:09 am to DanBobUGA
Anyone have the head to head numbers between east and west?
Posted on 8/8/08 at 12:30 pm to crTiger
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It's sad that we even have to try and make this justification.
I'm not saying that this is unique to UGA, or even that it isn't to a very small - nay infinitessimal - degree expected, but as the top team in the nation, and the flagship of the conference, we should strive to be the best of the best, and that means staying out of the police blotter as much as possible.
Still only seventh in the Fulmer Cup Standings - FWIW
It's sad to the degree that it's happened more times than you want, but my point was simply saying that the "crimes" our players have committed are no different than your average student in college that doesn't play a sport. I ran with a pretty good, "preppy" crowd back in the day and the only trouble any of us got in was your occasional fight and occasional MUI (minor under the influence) tick/arrest. No different than what the majority of these guys have done.
So it's not so much a justification, just more of a comparison.
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Interesting that I never thought of it that way, but I think you make a lot of sense.
Not that either side of the conference is particularly easy to win, but the East is definitely the harder of the two (at least it has been in the past few years.)
Might not be the case with KY in a rebuilding cycle, but then again so is ARK and the jury is still out on BAMA and MISS ST/OLE MISS.
As to his assertion about the "folding," I'm assuming he's referring to either FLA or TENN. Either one I would say is a respectable loss, but it gets back to the credibility issue that we need to earn to rightfully ascend to the national power level.
It's pretty clear which side as been more dominate since the conference split in 1992. Anyone that wants to debate it just isn't being honest.
Who knows what he's talking about with "folding." He just seems like he's upset at the attention UGA is getting this year. Florida has had our number for a long time, that's no secret. And we've been going back and forth with UT recently, so what, they're a solid program that we have to battle each and every year.
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the numbers disagree with you. ask Florida how tough it is to beat a top team from the West the last 2-3 years.
How does singling out UF make your point? I could probably single out Bama and make the same comparison and win that argument.
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Weak half of the conference or not we still have to play in the SEC championship game and kick your little east asses. So go on home and keep telling yourselves your in the better half. Wait you didn't even win your half of the conference
Kick our asses, really? I seem to remember different outcomes the past two times we've met.
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I agree that AUB/LSU are very tough draws. However, I still would say that it's harder (looking solely at division) to win the East than the West.
Oddly enough, every unbiased talking head, pundit, commentator, analyst also agrees with you
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Anyone have the head to head numbers between east and west?
No, but in 16 years of the conference being split the East has won 10 SEC Championships. And that includes Bama's last miracle year before they hid the skids. I think that pretty much sums it up.
Posted on 8/8/08 at 2:57 pm to DallasDawg
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LSU has benefited greatly from playing in the weaker side of the conference
yeah Vandy is a powerhouse and KY. quote:
If anything the west is going up and the east is going down.
couldn't agree more Vandy and KY arn't going anywhere
This post was edited on 8/8/08 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 8/8/08 at 3:19 pm to jesse
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couldn't agree more Vandy and KY arn't going anywhere
I think my post above still stands until it's challenged or proven wrong.
Yeah, focus on Vandy and UK and ignore UGA, UT, UF and SC. Btw, when's the last time Ole Miss was in the top 10 like UK was last year?
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