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re: Herschel named greatest SEC star of all time in the SDS tournament
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:14 pm to tylerdurden24
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:14 pm to tylerdurden24
Against my better judgment I'm going to weigh in on this dumb tournament. I promise you my jimmies aren't rustled and I'm doing this as an academic exercise only.
Herschel winning is weird. His best argument is as greatest SEC player, IMO. Then greatest SEC athlete, then waaaayyyy below that, greatest SEC star.
Tim Tebow was a bigger star than Herschel. Granted there is some modernity bias in that, but still. As far as icons go, Bear is far, far bigger.
Herschel winning is weird. His best argument is as greatest SEC player, IMO. Then greatest SEC athlete, then waaaayyyy below that, greatest SEC star.
Tim Tebow was a bigger star than Herschel. Granted there is some modernity bias in that, but still. As far as icons go, Bear is far, far bigger.
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 3:15 pm
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:21 pm to Pettifogger
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Tim Tebow was a bigger star than Herschel.
I think for the purposes of this inane tournament they had to put 'star' because "thing" or "entity" wouldn't sound as good. As a legacy to the SEC, tebow doesn't even compare to herschel for a multitude of reasons. I'm not even talking about the fact that the media is ooooooh about 1000 times more prevalent now than then.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:26 pm to WG_Dawg
Tim Tebow's hold on "greatest college QB" lasted 1 offseason- then CAM did his thing at AU.
Herschel still regarded as greatest college TB by all except AU fans.
Herschel still regarded as greatest college TB by all except AU fans.
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:32 pm to WorkinDawg
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should surprise no one....big no brainer. Here's to Herschel, greatest SEC star of all time
30 for 30 never made a movie about Walker.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:33 pm to logjamming
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30 for 30 never made a movie about Walker.
quoted for idiocy
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:34 pm to tylerdurden24
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Look again.
Ok I see him now at the bottom.
Still Kiffin, the hat, SECNetwork, Paul Finebaum and a lot of other goofy things?! Like I said I wouldn't argue Herschel as GOAT RB but overall SEC GOAT star? He's among them but it's hard to argue he's the greatest star ever. They say all time but other than a few you have to include recency rules those brackets.
At any rate, it doesn't matter but it's fun to debate/argue.
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:35 pm to logjamming
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30 for 30 never made a movie about Walker.
I'm sure if the tournament were "best dual sport football and baseball players in the SEC" Bo might have edged Herschel out.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:44 pm to tylerdurden24
It's good to see that our football program has finally won something 
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:46 pm to WG_Dawg
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I think for the purposes of this inane tournament they had to put 'star' because "thing" or "entity" wouldn't sound as good. As a legacy to the SEC, tebow doesn't even compare to herschel for a multitude of reasons. I'm not even talking about the fact that the media is ooooooh about 1000 times more prevalent now than then.
Eh, maybe. Walker is a pretty low key star in my opinion. Like I said, Herschel's best claim would be in a best player ranking.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:47 pm to Pettifogger
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Eh, maybe. Walker is a pretty low key star in my opinion.
Yeah I mean his personality was low key compared to some other people maybe.
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Herschel's best claim would be in a best player ranking.
That's true. But I mean for the purposes of "star" what would make someone the biggest? A loud and boisterous personality in addition to being good?
Geez I can't believe I typed all that, it reminds of that stupid arse "who's now" segment on espn.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:48 pm to tylerdurden24
Is this an April fools joke?
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:57 pm to WG_Dawg
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That's true. But I mean for the purposes of "star" what would make someone the biggest? A loud and boisterous personality in addition to being good?
Branding, distinctive personalty, notoriety, widespread legacy, etc. This isn't a slight to Walker, I just think of all the questions he's the answer to, this one is one of the less fitting. He's a local celebrity, revered player and certainly known to those who are either SEC folks or were interested in CFB during the time period. But he didn't have the brand that Bo did or the legacy that Bear does or the media-driven celebrity that modern guys like JFF or Tebow do.
Also, is Shaq not in there or did I miss it? He seems made for this type of discussion.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:58 pm to Pettifogger
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Walker is a pretty low key star in my opinion.
Dude.
What?
Posted on 4/1/15 at 4:01 pm to TripleBrass
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Dude.
What?
What do you object to? You think Herschel is a high profile star?
Nationwide, do you think he garners the recognition for the average person that Peyton or Bear Bryant or Shaq would?
Keep in mind this is a different question from whether I think Herschel was a high profile/elite CFB player.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 4:02 pm to tylerdurden24
Here the real MVP
Posted on 4/1/15 at 4:05 pm to tylerdurden24
Seeding gets screwed up even in fantasy brackets. Who would have thunk it??!!??
Posted on 4/1/15 at 4:06 pm to tylerdurden24
SDS is fricking terrible. Regardless, there are a handful of individuals that could take the title where I'd have no arguments.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 4:11 pm to TripleBrass
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Dude.
What?
Meh, they made a 30 for 30 about Bo and his greatness. Herschel's has one about him being traded away from a team that went on to win 3 Super Bowls and is referred to by many as the worst trade ever. He just doesn't have the following Bo has/had, deserved or not.
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 4:15 pm
Posted on 4/1/15 at 4:33 pm to AUbagman
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Meh, they made a 30 for 30 about Bo and his greatness. Herschel's has one about him being traded away from a team that went on to win 3 Super Bowls and is referred to by many as the worst trade ever. He just doesn't have the following Bo has/had, deserved or not.
What? Herschel had the first SEC-centric 30 for 30 documentary. Before Bo, before Auburn-Bama, etc.
Mash and learn
Posted on 4/1/15 at 4:37 pm to AUbagman
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SDS is fricking terrible. Regardless, there are a handful of individuals that could take the title where I'd have no arguments.
SDS is like B/R these days. They have a handful of really good writers and analysts and a whole bunch of suck arse ones and lots and lots of clickbait. It's a shame too as SDS used to be really good.
I will say the guy at SDS who breaks down and analyzes plays with animated gifs and the like. Is awesome. I wish more sports writers and sites would do what he does. He not only shows you step by step how a play happens but also explains it in a way anyone can understand.
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