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re: Has Vandy ever been a top SEC team

Posted on 9/11/14 at 11:01 pm to
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
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Posted on 9/11/14 at 11:01 pm to
From 1890 to 1920 Vandy was a top 15 school in winning percentage.
Posted by LSUNV
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Posted on 9/11/14 at 11:05 pm to
They just won a CWS so they seem to be doing ok in baseball now, but no not historically. I don't see that changing because of this

In September 2003, Vanderbilt disbanded its athletic department. Intercollegiate athletics are now administered as a part of the university's Division of Student Life, which oversees all student organizations and activities. Vanderbilt is currently the only Division I school without a separate athletic department. In making this decision, Chancellor Gordon Gee cited a need to reform college athletics, returning the emphasis to the student half of student-athletes.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
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Posted on 9/11/14 at 11:20 pm to
And then Gordon Gee went to Ohio State. What a joke
Posted by cyde
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 12:17 am to
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And then Gordon Gee went to Ohio State. What a joke

At which point he came under fire for repeatedly running his cocksucker -- ironically -- about athletics.
This post was edited on 9/12/14 at 12:22 am
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 12:20 am to
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Posted by VFL1800FPD
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 12:23 am to
Do you even English?
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 12:24 am to
do you even internet?
Posted by Dick Macho
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 12:26 am to
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Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?



I like your Swagger son.



I mean, shut up gump!
Posted by LSUNV
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 12:31 am to
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At which point he came under fire for repeatedly running his cocksucker -- ironically -- about athletics.




Well said Sir
Posted by Vandyrone
Nashville, TN
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 5:57 am to
Welcome. You've been here for 8 minutes. You should have been here in June. Something pretty cool happened then.
Posted by Mizzou to my Lou
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 7:06 am to
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From 1890 to 1920 Vandy was a top 15 school in winning percentage.



How many teams actually had a program back then?
Posted by KajunGator
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 7:11 am to
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This post was edited on 9/12/14 at 7:12 am
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 7:32 am to
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Sec wasn't formed til 1933. Good effort though.


Dr Dudley founded the SIAA in the late 1800's which morphed into the SoCon which morphed into the SEC in 1932. In the early days Vanderbilt won outright or shared at least a dozen conference championships. After World War II, and the emergence of the growth of the state schools with the help of the GI Bill most private schools could no longer compete with the larger student bodies and lower entrance requirements.

While claiming the SEC was not formed until the 1930's may be technically correct it is not with the same spirit that other conferences "extend" their histories as well. The B1G still uses all records from the old Western conference and its incarnations until the B1G was actually formed. The PAC was not formed until several seasons after the Pacific Coast Conference was totally disbanded for rampant cheating. This has not stopped the PAC from using all the old PCC records going back to the turn of the century as their own. The ACC uses SIAA and SoCon records in their history as well.

For a nice history of the good Dr LINK

In Bowling, Vanderbilt is the undisputed champion in the current SEC membership


In Baseball they have a new addition to the NCAA hardware

Posted by reel_gator8
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 8:07 am to
Vandy fielded pretty stout teams in the 1930s and 40s...their qb Wade was an NFL star for years. UF and Vandy rarely played each other back then. Bama,UK, UT, Ole Miss were usual foes from the SEC. UF & Bama also didn't play often at all back then. Ditto Ole Miss. Our usual schedule (six game SEC slate back in the days of ten games played)was always UGA, Ga Tech, AU, Miss St., LSU & Tulane.

I like the current format and the chance to play everyone more often....but nine games are needed and UF has a real problem with that because of the neutral site WLOCP and our home and away with the girls school. In years we play away at the girls school..we automatically have two road games and we have to schedule min of 4 SEC teams on the road those years. To fund the battleship we need the home games...plus we could only schedule 1 more OOC game when we travel to Tallyban due to five SEC home games needed...its a real problem that UGA faces also.

In the late sixties the SEC started a round robin mandate to get teams to play each other more often and that was when there were only ten SEC teams,,,since Ga Tech & Tulane had dropped out. It still didn't quite make teams rotate more..but it was a start. Before then the SEC didn't interfere with schedules and schools did whatever they wanted...some scheduled 5 SEC games and some (like Bama) scheduled 7 to try and gain an advantage.

Vandy did field some decent teams back in the mid 1970s and beat UF back in 1975 I believe...but the head coach jumped ship ala Franklin and results waned.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 8:18 am to
quote:

From 1890 to 1920 Vandy was a top 15 school in winning percentage.


quote:

How many teams actually had a program back then?



The SIAA was the original Super Conference.
Current and former SEC underlined :::: Current ACC in BOLD


School // Tenure // Conference left for // Current conference

Alabama // 1894–1922 // Southern Conference // Southeastern Conference
Auburn // 1894–1922 // Southern Conference // Southeastern Conference
Centre // 1910–1941 // Southern Athletic Association (D-III)
Chattanooga // 1914–1932 // Southern Conference
The Citadel // 1909–1935 // Southern Conference // Southern Conference
Clemson // 1895–1922 // Southern Conference // Atlantic Coast Conference
Cumberland // 1895–1903 // Mid-South Conference (NAIA)
Dahlonega (North Georgia) // 1908–1909 // Peach Belt Conference (D-II)
Davidson // 1898–1906 // Atlantic 10 Conference
Florida // 1910–1922 // Southern Conference // Southeastern Conference
Furman // 1898–1935 // Southern Conference // Southern Conference
Georgetown (KY) // 1915–1941 // Mid-South Conference (NAIA)
Georgia // 1894–1922 // Southern Conference // Southeastern Conference
Georgia Tech // 1894–1922 // Southern Conference // Atlantic Coast Conference
Gordon Military College // 1906–1910 // Georgia Junior College Athletic Association (NJCAA)
Howard College (Samford) // 1909–1938 // Southern Conference
Kentucky // 1895–1922 // Southern Conference //Southeastern Conference
Louisiana State // 1895–1923 // Southern Conference // Southeastern Conference
Louisville // 1914–1941 // Independent // Atlantic Coast Conference
Memphis University School // 1908–1910 // Tennessee Secondary School Athletic Association (HS)
Mercer // 1895–1937 // Atlantic Sun Conference (Pioneer Football League for CFB; Southern Conference for all sports in 2014)
Miami (FL) // 1929–1942 // Independent // Atlantic Coast Conference
Millsaps // 1908–1938 // Southern Athletic Association (D-III)
Mississippi // 1895–1922 // Southern Conference // Southeastern Conference
Mississippi College // 1910–1941 // American Southwest Conference (D-III)
Mississippi A&M (Mississippi State) // 1895–1922 // Southern Conference // Southeastern Conference
Nashville // 1895–1908 // University closed in 1909
North Carolina // 1894–1901 // South Atlantic Intercollegiate Athletic Association // Atlantic Coast Conference
Oglethorpe // 1920–1925 // Southern Athletic Association (D-III)
Presbyterian // 1921–1942 // Big South Conference
University of the South (Sewanee) // 1894–1924 // Southern Conference // Southern Athletic Association (D-III)
South Carolina // 1916–1922 // Southern Conference // Southeastern Conference
Southern University (Birmingham-Southern) // 1901–1912 // Southern Athletic Association (D-III)
Southwestern Presbyterian (Rhodes) // 1895–1903 // Southern Athletic Association (D-III)
Tennessee // 1895–1922 // Southern Conference // Southeastern Conference
Texas // 1895–1906 // Independent // Big 12 Conference
Texas A&M // 1903–1914 // Southwest Conference // Southeastern Conference
Transylvania // 1915–1941 // Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference (D-III)
Trinity College (Duke) // 1903–1912 // Atlantic Coast Conference
Tulane // 1894–1922 // Southern Conference // Conference USA (American Athletic Conference in 2014)
Vanderbilt // 1894–1924 // Southern Conference // Southeastern Conference
Virginia Tech // 1898 // Atlantic Coast Conference
Wofford // 1903–1942 // Southern Conference
Posted by sewaneerebel
Oxford, Ms
Member since Sep 2014
697 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 9:53 am to
Vandy has never won the SEC in football. They were prominent in the old Southern Conference before they joined the SEC as a charter member in 1933. As everyone knows, they won the NC in baseball last year. They should remain a top team in baseball as long as Tim Corbin is there.

Little known or discussed facts about the SEC: Florida had never won the SEC in football until Spurrier came in 1990. For years among the 13 charter members, Florida and Vandy were the only two teams that had not won it at least once. Former members Georgia Tech and Tulane won it more than once before they left.

Among added members since 1933, Arkansas, A & M, Missouri and South Carolina have never won the SEC in football. All other teams have won the SEC in football at least once.
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:27 am to
Actually UF won the SEC on the field in 1984 & 1985 but was slapped with some of the most serious sanctions ever....no TV for 2 years, huge scholly reductions etc etc...and we were just caught for the most with minor crap....one allegation was that an asst coach bought a pack of gum for a recruit...I kid you not.'

Why did UF get slammed? Think about it...Florida is a hotbed of recruits and Texas was too...SMU was really dirty...but it kept them from EVER being successful again to previous levels...the beneficiaries? Texas, A&M, the girls school and the Univ of NJ @ Coral Gables mainly.

We also won the SEC on the field during Spurriers first year and we couldn't go bowl game or claim title due to an unproven violation by an GA when he took Jarvis Williams to Palatka to pay fine or go to jail..but we probably were guilty....just not any evidence.

This shows how valuable Spurrier was to our program. We had oodles of def talent but couldn't do anything but Emmitt right or left or up the middle.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42559 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:34 am to
Vandy doesn't need an AD. Their endowment is almost 4 billion. That's more than AU, UA, and LSU combined.
Posted by crawdaddy52
Member since Dec 2010
898 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 12:11 pm to
Why do you even care. As has been stated we are charter members of the SEC and are going no where. For the Football centric, we have a pretty gruesome record post 55. We had very good baseball teams back in the 70's as well. My senior year we won the SEC in basketball and baseball. We are an AAU member which is very important to the conference. I think the endowment is closer to 5 B. Yes our new head coach is a dumpster fire.
Posted by LSUNV
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Member since Feb 2011
22422 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 12:50 pm to
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Vandy doesn't need an AD. Their endowment is almost 4 billion. That's more than AU, UA, and LSU combined.


Athletic Departments do more than just handle money. If all AD departments only handled money then Vandy would not be the only school to get rid of it.
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