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Posted on 12/4/12 at 9:51 am to RollTide1987
Holtz won National coach of the year. He was given tons of credit for the job he did. 2 straight outback bowls was huge for USCe during that time. The only reason his legacy has diminished was his career there ended with a massive brawl in the USCe/Clemson game IIRC.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 9:52 am to tduecen
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SEC rant is a bit feisty this morning, must be all the new board that has been banned from other sites
Usually happens when a twit asks a really dumb question I think.
You either
A) dont know jack about SEC football
B) dont know jack about South Carolina football
Brad Scott, he of the famous Bowden diddy farmhouse singlehandedly set USC back ten years. I think it was the Christmas gift of a 90,000 check he got for helping out Diddys son at Clemson, or maybe not....but it sounds good.
S Carolina is mentioned when talking about the SEC east....that didnt use to be...especially when Spurrier was at UF thumping them...hanging 60 one time as I recall.
Spurrier doesnt have the high school athletes that Florida does in its backyard. There are very good athletes in SC, but he still has to recruit the Ga/Fl/NC areas.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 9:53 am to genro
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Holtz won National coach of the year. He was given tons of credit for the job he did.
He was given credit back then. But not so much now because of the job Spurrier has done. I remember his accomplishments rather vividly.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 9:56 am to RollTide1987
Well Holtz is on tv making an arse of himself all the time now too. And everyone hates watching him and they make fun of him. And I tell these kids that he's actually one of the greatest coaches of all time - huge success at ND, Arky, and USCe and they don't even believe me. 
Posted on 12/4/12 at 9:57 am to undecided
He's built a strong program and continues to make it stronger. 
Posted on 12/4/12 at 9:59 am to Darth Slive
Despite the fact that I don't care for Lou and he makes an arse of himself on ESPN, we have to give him some credit here.
Lou Holtz took the program from pathetic to mediocre. Spurrier took the program from mediocre to very good. Neither took the program from nothing to championship, but both have done a good job.
Lou Holtz took the program from pathetic to mediocre. Spurrier took the program from mediocre to very good. Neither took the program from nothing to championship, but both have done a good job.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 10:01 am to reel_gator8
Awe such an angry little kid this morning, would disappointment be a better word than failure for you?
Had you been around when Spurrier was hired you would see that he hasn't met many of the expectations the SC crowd had at the time on this board
Had you been around when Spurrier was hired you would see that he hasn't met many of the expectations the SC crowd had at the time on this board
Posted on 12/4/12 at 10:02 am to tduecen
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Has Steve Spurrier been a failure at SC?
No way. USCe was the pre-Synder Kansas State of the east, historically.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 10:07 am to tduecen
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Had you been around when Spurrier was hired you would see that he hasn't met many of the expectations the SC crowd had at the time on this board
Because the 3 or 4 USC fans that must have been on this board at that time really display what the USC fanbase as a whole was expecting. Where the frick is this coming from anyway? He isn't even done coaching so why are you trying to decide if he his a failure before he retires?
Posted on 12/4/12 at 10:11 am to tduecen
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Spurrier's All-time 1sts at SC 2005 -
- 1st and 2nd win @ Knoxville
- 1st win @ Gainesville
- 1st time we won 3 in a row vs UT
- 1st time we won 3 in a row vs UGA
- 1st SEC East title
- 1st 11-win season
- 1st back to back 10+ win seasons
- 1st time we finished in the AP top 10
- 1st time we landed nations #1 recruit
- 1st two times we've had at least 6 SEC wins in a season
- 1st win over a #1 ranked team
- On going school record of 45 straight weeks in the top 25 polls
- Marcus Lattimore, Kenny McKinnely, Sidney Rice Eric Norwood, J. Clowney, and Ace Sanders are all players under Spurrier's tenure who hold school records. (I think there might be more)
Made a thread about Spurrier's 1st here a while ago. No.. he is not a failure.
This post was edited on 12/4/12 at 10:11 am
Posted on 12/4/12 at 10:13 am to CockRocket
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Had you been around when Spurrier was hired you would see that he hasn't met many of the expectations the SC crowd had at the time on this board
Yeah, and those 4 USCe fans at the time probably just became fans BECAUSE Spurrier was hired...
Posted on 12/4/12 at 10:13 am to CockRocket
As the LsU, Alabama, (insert team) on this board really reflects the majority of their respective fan bases eh?
Posted on 12/4/12 at 10:13 am to boXerrumble
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- 1st and 2nd win @ Knoxville
- 1st win @ Gainesville
- 1st time we won 3 in a row vs UT
- 1st time we won 3 in a row vs UGA
- 1st SEC East title
- 1st 11-win season
- 1st back to back 10+ win seasons
- 1st time we finished in the AP top 10
- 1st time we landed nations #1 recruit
- 1st two times we've had at least 6 SEC wins in a season
- 1st win over a #1 ranked team
- On going school record of 45 straight weeks in the top 25 polls
- Marcus Lattimore, Kenny McKinnely, Sidney Rice Eric Norwood, J. Clowney, and Ace Sanders are all players under Spurrier's tenure who hold school records. (I think there might be more)
This, plus routinely frustrating Nick Saban.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 10:16 am to boXerrumble
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This, plus routinely frustrating Nick Saban.
And Dabo Swinney.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 10:18 am to theGarnetWay
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And Dabo Swinney.
Nah, he routinely humiliates Dabo Swinney
Posted on 12/4/12 at 10:44 am to tduecen
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As the LsU, Alabama, (insert team) on this board really reflects the majority of their respective fan bases eh?
I don't think so. Do you? I think you do because why else would you say what you said about USC fans having higher expectations than what is being met?Also, there are a lot more LSU and Bama fans here than USC fans and you can definitely gauge a fanbase more accurately.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 10:48 am to CockRocket
No you can't really, 50-100 people accurately gauge fan base of thousands? Similarly the 15-20 SC fans at time (along with other posters) don't accurately measure the entire fan base.
Spurrier has been a disappointment in a sense only making it to 1 SEC championship game and 0 BCS games in 8 years. His "rebuilding" isn't as bad as some believe as Holtz had a good run before him.
Spurrier has been a disappointment in a sense only making it to 1 SEC championship game and 0 BCS games in 8 years. His "rebuilding" isn't as bad as some believe as Holtz had a good run before him.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 10:50 am to theGarnetWay
Sidney rice was a holtz signee as he was REd shirted in 04
Posted on 12/4/12 at 10:51 am to tduecen
Also, Lou Holtz accomplished his rebuilding with the distinct disadvantage of potentially drowning his players every time he spoke to them.
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