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re: Has college football lost its soul?

Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:50 pm to
Posted by TinGym
Member since Jun 2016
2787 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:50 pm to
It's been soulless for a long long time. Where u been?
Posted by ugasickem
Allatoona
Member since Nov 2010
10797 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 11:05 pm to
No. It sucks
This post was edited on 1/25/24 at 11:11 pm
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 11:06 pm to
Of course
Posted by BamaRoo
Shitlingthorpe, UK
Member since Jul 2009
3375 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 11:10 pm to
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Reduced traditions and connection between players and their chosen school. Increased program cost of success. It’s possible to lose a roster in a single season.

Posted by Gunga Din
Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2020
1466 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 3:43 am to
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NIL simply took a black market and made it more open and public.


The thing that is different is that for maybe for the first time in history the "legal" market is more expensive than the black market it replaced.

I'd bet the cost of paying players above board is around ten times higher than what the costs were paying them under the table. There weren't any guys getting a million dollars under the table. Not even close.
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
75496 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 4:16 am to
Yes. The commercialization and lack of regulation for NIL and portal have been some of the biggest issue.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
4321 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 5:15 am to
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It’s sad to me what is happening.

You’re still going to watch. And by the time kids who grew up on social media influencers making bank as teenagers are middle age, no one will think twice about it.

It’s a changing world, not just a sport.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
4321 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 5:24 am to
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It lost it decades ago, so sick of this fairy tale that just NOW it is an issue.

We can't just be happy with college athletics and the concept of student athlete. Most college fans turned it into the nightmare that it is today. Football coaches make more than the GDP of some states it seems like, and that started a long time ago.

If you wanted college football you would have left it at college, you would not support gaming the system to allow academically unqualified athletes into a university just because they can catch a ball in a kids game.

Everyone is so full of sh1t, you wanted a pro level game, but one where everyone pretends it is still about the college behind it.

Spare me the fainting outrage now...enjoy minor league NFL.

You will get downvoted to oblivion, but you are absolutely right.
Posted by Barbellthor
Columbia
Member since Aug 2015
8636 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 6:26 am to
quote:

is the age of my Saturday morning ritual dead?

No
quote:

Has college football lost its soul?

Kinda, yea.
Posted by SCgamecock2988
Columbia, SC
Member since Oct 2015
14081 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 6:28 am to
Undoubtedly.
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
5017 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 6:42 am to
It lost its soul once Saban came to bama and coaches started becoming millionaires.

Tailgating turned into a luxury pursuit. On campus parking all but died. Marching bands are now drowned out by DJs, ever-louder club music and led light shows. Buying "official" team gear is expensive. News on any big team is tightly controlled by universities in intelligence agency fashion. Tickets are too expensive for most families.

This is all before NIL and the portal. It made NIL and the portal inevitable.
This post was edited on 1/26/24 at 6:43 am
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
30912 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 7:03 am to
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The thing that is different is that for maybe for the first time in history the "legal" market is more expensive than the black market it replaced.

I'd bet the cost of paying players above board is around ten times higher than what the costs were paying them under the table. There weren't any guys getting a million dollars under the table. Not even close.


Couple that with no transfer portal back in the day - once you enrolled somewhere, you were there unless you did something to lose your scholarship.

And from an academic viewpoint (as we still, laughably, call these people student athletes)... it would be nearly impossible to go somewhere your freshman year, then go and get a different, yet full, academic scholarship to another school, and then repeat the process again, before even getting your first degree.

Just wait for someone to start suing schools over the fact that athletes get preferential scholarship mobility over actual students.
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
30912 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 7:11 am to
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It lost its soul once Saban came to bama and coaches started becoming millionaires.


Bobby Bowden was making over $2 million after bonuses (with the salary just under 1 million) way back in 1995.

Spurrier was up to $2 million by 1997, and the average head coach was at $417,000 by 1998.

By 2004 over 20 coaches were making over a million dollars.

Les Miles was given a contract that ensured he would be the highest paid coach in the SEC in 2008 - he was assured a match of the highest paid coach, plus $1,000 to make sure he was the highest paid.

Dave Aranda was paid $2.5 million in 2018 by LSU to be a defensive coordinator - which had him making more than 70 FBS head coaches at the time.

Blaming Saban and Alabama shows a very limited understanding of the history of coaches' salaries.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
2068 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 7:13 am to
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Capitalism is the best economic system humanity has yet to invent, but the downfall of CFB is an example of the downside of it. When a bunch of money gets involved in something, that thing tends to get ruined.


Exactly this. It wasnt that long ago that the university didnt charge for parking or tailgating. The stadium wasnt blasting advertisements in your face the entire game. Not every game was on TV and if they were, they werent 5 hours long due to commercials. The university presidents and athletic administrations made themselves rich on the backs on football. You cant exactly force amateurism on players when the university is squeezing every dollar they can out of the average Joe fan on the backs of the players
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68043 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 7:17 am to
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Within 5-10 years there will be a major overhaul of the sport as we know it.


The NFL should use the spring pro leagues into farm systems and kids only interested in being professionals can go there straight from high school.

College can revert back to true student athletes and the game that our parents and grandparents loved can return.
Posted by FlyFishinTiger
Fayetteville,AR
Member since Mar 2021
703 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 8:47 am to
people with relatively little experience get paid a fortune for entertainment
Posted by Hback
Member since Aug 2017
9272 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 8:50 am to
At least we can buy beer now at BD (even if it is $10 a pop)
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41499 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 9:04 am to
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people with relatively little experience get paid a fortune for entertainment


It is totally different when schools have alumni who are tied to a school and will support anyone who plays on their team. It is not earned, it is automatic.

People have to turn their back on their teams and they won’t do it. That is the only way. People are sheeple.
Posted by HogsOfWar
Member since Jan 2015
1144 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 9:10 am to
Minor league pro football.

Will be every bit as popular as minor league baseball and minor league basketball.

In a few years, everyone will wish it were still college football.
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