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Has Blake Sims' Success Changed/Will Change The Type of QB Bama Recruits?

Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:43 pm
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:43 pm
I ask because Blake is an improvement over McCarron and it's really tough for defenses to focus on Bama's passing or running backs when there's a QB who is a running threat in addition to a passing threat.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:45 pm to
Alabama has never really made an effort to feature Sims' running ability.
Posted by 12
Redneck part of Florida
Member since Nov 2010
18754 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:46 pm to
Blake Barnett is the top dual threat QB and he is committed to Bama. He will enroll in January.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:47 pm to
We recruited Winston hard......
Posted by JordonfortheJ
Bavaria-Germany
Member since Mar 2012
14547 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:48 pm to
Yes

quote:

5,700 passing yards, 1,200 rushing yards and 65 TDs

2015 Bama recruit


SEC fuuuuuuuuuuucked
This post was edited on 12/6/14 at 11:49 pm
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9419 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:49 pm to
quote:

We recruited Winston hard......



I don't think of Winston as a dual threat.
Posted by five_fivesix
Y’all
Member since Aug 2012
13834 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:49 pm to
Good question. I would think Kiffin, if he stays, would have a lot to say about it.
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9419 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:51 pm to
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Good question. I would think Kiffin, if he stays, would have a lot to say about it.


I think Kiffin played a big part in recruiting the Barnett kid.
Posted by five_fivesix
Y’all
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:54 pm to
Then I hope he stays.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26956 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:50 am to
quote:

five_fivesix
Has Blake Sims' Success Changed/Will Change The Type of QB Bama Recruits?
Then I hope he stays.


I still don't think anyone is ready yet to turn the keys to a program over to Kiffin, so right now this is probably the best job he can get. Think he'll be here a couple more years.
This post was edited on 12/7/14 at 12:50 am
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
35965 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:53 am to
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I ask because Blake is an improvement over McCarron and it's really tough for defenses to focus on Bama's passing or running backs when there's a QB who is a running threat in addition to a passing threat.



IMO, not really, I think we still search for someone who is a good game manager. Not someone with just great physical ability. That's actually why Sims got the nod over Coker... cause he was better at reading defenses, knowing the plays, getting people set and in position, etc.

but hey, if they can do all that and got legs too... frick yeah we will take them and start them.

ETA: I also think it's hard to judge a QB coming out of highschool on how good they will be as a game manager and how good they will be at reading good defenses... So even though we recruit playmakers, the best game managers are gonna win the battle.
This post was edited on 12/7/14 at 12:58 am
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
35965 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 1:02 am to
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I ask because Blake is an improvement over McCarron


I don't think blake is an improvement over McCarron. Blake makes alot of great plays with both his arm and his legs, he has also made a lot of mistakes. McCarron was more consistent, made less mistakes, and was better at reading defenses IMO. But, blake can make plays with his legs, is pretty consistent (especially as the year has gone on), and is decent at reading defenses... But blake has also had a LOT of help from amari cooper...

I really like Blake Sims, probably more than McCarron because of what he overcame to earn the starting job, but he will never make it in NFL and probably won't even get drafted... there is a reason for that.
This post was edited on 12/7/14 at 1:04 am
Posted by five_fivesix
Y’all
Member since Aug 2012
13834 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 1:04 am to
I cringed when we hired Kiffin, 'bout like 99.999% of Bama fans. I'd cringe the same way, if he were to leave. I hope you're right.

Still wouldn't buy a used car from him though.
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9419 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 1:48 am to
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I don't think blake is an improvement over McCarron. Blake makes alot of great plays with both his arm and his legs, he has also made a lot of mistakes. McCarron was more consistent, made less mistakes, and was better at reading defenses IMO. But, blake can make plays with his legs, is pretty consistent (especially as the year has gone on), and is decent at reading defenses... But blake has also had a LOT of help from amari cooper...


Just going on the basis of one season, Blake is better. Sure, the numbers bear this out but looking beyond the numbers, Blake is a better passer especially of the deep ball. Blake seems to have a knack of always hitting a receiver in stride. I remember a lot of deep balls from AJ where the receiver had to wait for the ball giving the DB the chance to tackle the receiver.

Aside from the Auburn game, Blake's mistakes have been minimal and that's a big reason why he never lost his job.

I think McCarron needed one of the greatest offensive lines in college football history to be a great player. If McCarron was playing behind your offensive line this season he'd look like he looked his last season at Bama - a liability when facing a team with speedy pass rushers.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
35965 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 1:58 am to
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Just going on the basis of one season, Blake is better. Sure, the numbers bear this out but looking beyond the numbers, Blake is a better passer especially of the deep ball. Blake seems to have a knack of always hitting a receiver in stride. I remember a lot of deep balls from AJ where the receiver had to wait for the ball giving the DB the chance to tackle the receiver.



Blake has come a long way in one year... it's hard for me to compare him to McCarron cause I think about McCarron in his final seasons vs blake's only season.. But Blake sucked it up pretty bad at the beginning... he had numerous over and under thrown balls... mostly under thrown. To be honest I didn't think he had the arm to throw the deep ball acurately until about 2/3 through this season. Bama survived early on the short passes, only in the last few games has blake really come along. And that's including one that he through 3 picks in to Auburn...

Blake's good, better at times than McCarron, but McCarron was more consistent and less likely to frick up. Turnovers cost you games, we were lucky against auburn.

What I will give sims over McCarron is his willingness to take some risks.. I think both McCarron and McElroy could be too conservative at times and only throw to what they considered the sure thing. Many teams have given us fits when their QBs were more willing to throw it up and trust their receiver to win the battle. A&M especially.
This post was edited on 12/7/14 at 2:02 am
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83433 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 2:02 am to
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Alabama has never really made an effort to feature Sims' running ability


I'd go further than that and say Alabama has...so far...held him back from his true running potential.
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9419 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 2:10 am to
quote:

I'd go further than that and say Alabama has...so far...held him back from his true running potential.


But, I'll say when you all have featured his running ability or when Blake improvised and ran those times were timely as hell.
Posted by harmonics
Mars Hotel
Member since Jan 2010
18615 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 2:18 am to
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I cringed when we hired Kiffin, 'bout like 99.999% of Bama fans.


I was stoked when Kiffin was hired. Dude knows offense and can recruit. Getting him at Alabama as OC was the perfect storm with Saban as head coach. If you would have told me back in 2006 that the Miami Dolphins head coach and the future Oakland Raiders head coach would eventually both be coaching at Alabama at the same time, I would have slapped you in your retarded face.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83433 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 2:20 am to
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But, I'll say when you all have featured his running ability or when Blake improvised and ran those times were timely as hell


No doubt man. He's timely as hell...and healthy. I honestly think Saban has gone out of his way to keep Sims healthy. Alabama would have 4 losses without Sims imo.
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