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re: Has a player ever won the Camp, Walker, Maxwell, and Heisman all in one year?
Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:59 pm to The_Joker
Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:59 pm to The_Joker
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It blows my mind that he's winning all these things. I've never once watched him and seen the same jaw dropping domination I saw from Cam, DMAC Vince Young or Reggie Bush.
Then you are a blind dude.
I'm 47 years old and I've been watching college football a long time, and he is great. The best that I've ever seen come through Alabama and the SEC in years. I think Bo was great, and so was Hershel (who I think was the best of all time), but he is the best I've seen in the modern era. Period.
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Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:07 pm to Bham4Tide
They have to give out a Heisman every year, even in years where there isn't a super flashy player to give it too.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:11 pm to The_Joker
The problem is you like the flash and the flash is good but Henry isn't flashy. He's a walking statue. He's like messing with Sasquatch. He hits you with the earth, pass you like wind, and the kid has the fire inside. 7 or 8 in the box and he just grinds and grinds, then BAM, big play. Respect.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:12 pm to Bham4Tide
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Then you are a blind dude.
I'm 47 years old and I've been watching college football a long time, and he is great. The best that I've ever seen come through Alabama and the SEC in years. I think Bo was great, and so was Hershel (who I think was the best of all time), but he is the best I've seen in the modern era. Period.
Maybe. I'm certainly no expert. I just don't see much pro potential. Without an o-line to put a hole right in front of his face and space for him to pick up speed, I don't see him doing much. His lateral movement ability leaves WAY too much to be desired. Lagarrette Blount is the closest modern NFL comparison I can think of and Henry doesn't have his patience or vision.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:15 pm to Bham4Tide
Keep watching this 4 loss decline team and report back the same one sided dumbassery of this board. 
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:16 pm to mikeb0870
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The problem is you like the flash
Not true at all. NFL backs these days are built in the mold of either Chris Ivory or Doug Martin. Not many flashy guys in the league other than Charles. Big guys like Brandon Jacobs have limited roles and fizzle out. And Jacobs pushes a pile way better than I've ever seen Henry do it.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:17 pm to The_Joker
Scooter, we are talking college. These awards are for college players.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:17 pm to crimson crazy
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:18 pm to IAmReality
He definitely deserves the Heisman, which is award to" The outstanding college football player whose performance best exhibits the pursuit of excellence with integrity. Winners epitomize great ability combined with diligence, perseverance, and hard work." I would say that summarizes him pretty well, I don't know if he is the greatest actual running back in the country this year though so the others may be less so.
He is a very talented RB, who obviously works his arse off, and seems to be a pretty good person and great teammate.
He also has absolutely incredible hair and not in a boring white California QB way.
He is a very talented RB, who obviously works his arse off, and seems to be a pretty good person and great teammate.
He also has absolutely incredible hair and not in a boring white California QB way.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:23 pm to The_Joker
Henry hasn't peaked. I've said that before on here many times. He lacks lateral movement as you said, but he has nothing to gain by coming back for another season other than working on that particular part of his game along with getting more receptions.
That being said, he will learn in the NFL. He already has enough raw skill to be the best RB in CFB, his blocking ability, speed and strength, are good enough that he can work on his lateral movement and juke moves on Sundays next season.
ETA: And for the record, as I have also posted many times, other than Kelly at Center, this OL is average at best with Nysewander being the second best blocker on the team not counting WRs blocking downfield which has been a staple of Bama WRs since Saban arrived and brought in Julio Jones. OJ Howard has done good blocking too since he hasn't caught a TD pass all season and was so surprised to have a pass thrown his way in the SECCG last week that it hit him in the hands and he was so shocked he dropped it.
That being said, he will learn in the NFL. He already has enough raw skill to be the best RB in CFB, his blocking ability, speed and strength, are good enough that he can work on his lateral movement and juke moves on Sundays next season.
ETA: And for the record, as I have also posted many times, other than Kelly at Center, this OL is average at best with Nysewander being the second best blocker on the team not counting WRs blocking downfield which has been a staple of Bama WRs since Saban arrived and brought in Julio Jones. OJ Howard has done good blocking too since he hasn't caught a TD pass all season and was so surprised to have a pass thrown his way in the SECCG last week that it hit him in the hands and he was so shocked he dropped it.
This post was edited on 12/10/15 at 9:30 pm
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:30 pm to The_Joker
Over 1200 yds were after contact during the regular season, going into the SEC CG. I am not sure he has had all those holes you allude to.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:38 pm to Alahunter
Meh! His probably the best this year I guess.
To bad our juice boy was suspended.
J/k'n you sensitive bastards.
To bad our juice boy was suspended.
J/k'n you sensitive bastards.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:56 pm to The_Joker
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Chris Ivory or Doug Martin
Doug Martin was almost out of the league after last season. He is having a decent year this year. But guess what? It's a contract year, imagine that.
Chris Ivory is a terrible example as well. He is only on the field for 2 downs out of 4, and only when the Jets have the lead.
I think Henry has some work to do before he can be a game changer in the NFL, but he can walk in and be a role player immediately. No matter how often people like to deny it, he can run with anybody. Though he has hardly any quickness to his game. He gets by on strength, speed, and surprising fluidity for a big kid. The latter somewhat making up for his lack of quickness.
This post was edited on 12/10/15 at 9:57 pm
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:59 pm to crimson crazy
Well, the ever-overrated Manti Te'o won 6 individual awards including the Walter Camp and the Maxwell (I was expecting them to award the Walker, Bilitnekoff, Outland, and O'Brien to him as well the way it was going), but didn't win the Heisman.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:59 pm to Bbobalou
DMac won the Walker (2006-7), Jim Brown (2006), Camp (2007) and was twice the Heisman runner-up (2006-7). The Maxwell and Heisman are elitist awards that will never go to any player from Arkansas, no matter how deserving they may be.
This post was edited on 12/10/15 at 10:01 pm
Posted on 12/11/15 at 12:58 am to The_Joker
I'm talking about what Henry is doing now Poker. I honestly don't know what he'll be in the pros. I hope he's successful but I'll let all you draft analysts do your scouting and I'll just wait and see. In the meanwhile I'll see if he can carry this team for two more games.
Posted on 12/11/15 at 3:44 am to mikeb0870
The award he wants the most is to stand up there with his coaches and teammates and hold up the 2015 NC Trophy. That's what makes DH so good. He is 100% team and guys follow his lead. There isn't an ounce of selfishness in his 242lb body. If Saban asked him to switch to FB and block for Drake every play the next two games, he would do it well and without question.
Posted on 12/11/15 at 3:50 am to Bham4Tide
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I'm 47 years old and I've been watching college football a long time, and he is great. The best that I've ever seen come through Alabama and the SEC in years. I think Bo was great, and so was Hershel (who I think was the best of all time), but he is the best I've seen in the modern era. Period.
You say that, but I'd rather have Fournette.
Posted on 12/11/15 at 3:54 am to The_Joker
quote:this only shows that you really have not watched him play. His vision and patience have been great. We have 3 other backs and none of them are finding these supposed massive holes the o line is oppening (all of them 5 stars or high 4 stars). His lateral mobility is vastly underrated, he is incredible in the open field, hes incredible with yac, and his top end speed is elite. He routinely outruns dbs who weigh 60lbs less than him.
Without an o-line to put a hole right in front of his face and space for him to pick up speed, I don't see him doing much. His lateral movement ability leaves WAY too much to be desired. Lagarrette Blount is the closest modern NFL comparison I can think of and Henry doesn't have his patience or vision
This post was edited on 12/11/15 at 3:56 am
Posted on 12/11/15 at 3:59 am to TeLeFaWx
I would take either. Both are great team players with elite strength and speed. Comparing Henry to Fournette is like comparing Jimmy Page to Eric Clapton. At that level, who cares?
After you get a DH or LF, you figure out how you get the ball into their hands in the most productive situations.
After you get a DH or LF, you figure out how you get the ball into their hands in the most productive situations.
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