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re: Has a 3 loss coach or his QB ever won the Heisman?

Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:45 pm to
Posted by WestSideTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
3660 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:45 pm to
Only thru 2018
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Winners on Teams with Three Regular Season Losses
1950 Vic Janowicz Ohio State 6 – 3 – 0
1961 Ernie Davis Syracuse 7 – 3 – 0
1970 Jim Plunkett Stanford 8 – 3 – 0
1980 George Rogers South Carolina 8 – 3 – 0
1981 Marcus Allen So. California 8 – 3 – 0
1985 Bo Jackson Auburn 8 – 3 – 0
1987 Tim Brown Notre Dame 8 – 3 – 0
1998 Ricky Williams Texas 8 – 3 – 0
2007 Tim Tebow Florida 9 – 3 – 0
2011 Robert Griffin III Baylor 9 – 3 – 0
2016 Lamar Jackson Louisville 9 – 3 – 0

Winners on Teams with Four Regular Season Losses
1969 Steve Owens Oklahoma 6 – 4 – 0

Winners on Teams with a .500 Record
1935 Jay Berwanger Chicago 4 – 4 – 0

Winners on Teams with a Losing Record
1956 Paul Hornung Notre Dame 2 – 8 – 0
Posted by bstew3006
318
Member since Dec 2007
12583 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:47 pm to
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ugasickem


Posted by Savagetiger65
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2023
333 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:47 pm to
Your not a georgia fan! Your just putting up that moniker so you can pretend to be some superior teams fan! Your probably a vandy imposter with a little knob! Otherwise you would be posting towards Bama fans! Don’t they play in some meaningless game soon?
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
12324 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:48 pm to

Why is this an issue?

This post was edited on 11/21/23 at 8:50 pm
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
13366 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:51 pm to
Several players have won it with 3 losses. Just not over QB with great numbers on teams with only 1 loss to a top 10 team.

JD has good numbers but didn't beat any of the good team he played.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64576 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:51 pm to
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Mods should implement an IQ test on this board. Anyone scoring under 80 can’t start threads.


That would take out at least 33.7% of the traffic, admin can't have that. Chicken has mouths to feed.
Posted by ugasickem
Allatoona
Member since Nov 2010
10814 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:53 pm to
Only because the only thing LSU fans have left is Heisman. Hell grt get it.. maybe
Posted by supersaints9
Colleyville,Tx
Member since Dec 2009
14229 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:54 pm to
Yep ! Even more than your tiny little brain can comprehend
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
9123 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:54 pm to
Technically, no. He was not voted a Heisman winner with three losses. Only had two at the time. And it was Caleb Williams who won. Not Jesus.
quote:

Literally last year moron. Jesus Christ.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
53436 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:55 pm to
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JD has good numbers but didn't beat any of the good team he played.


#9 Missouri on the road?
Posted by OKBoomerSooner
Member since Dec 2019
3150 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:55 pm to
OP did not specify that the player had to have three losses when it was awarded.

However I humbly accept your correction as to who won it.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:56 pm to
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Mods should implement an IQ test on this board. Anyone scoring under 80 can’t start threads.


Half the LSU fanbase would evaporate. And unfortunately for you, I'd still be here.
Posted by MetryMauler
Member since Sep 2016
7132 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:56 pm to
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LSU
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:57 pm to
Yes, LSU. The lowest common denominator around these parts.
Posted by MetryMauler
Member since Sep 2016
7132 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:57 pm to
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LSU
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
13366 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:58 pm to
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#9 Missouri on the road?
If beating Missouri is all that takes to win the Heisman then Beck is in alot better position.

JD is a Heisman worthy QB playing on a bad team. Nix is playing on a top 10 team. Nothing LSU can sell is going to top that.
This post was edited on 11/21/23 at 9:02 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
53436 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:59 pm to
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If beating Missouri is all that takes to win the Heisman then Beck is in alot better position.


The Heisman has nothing to do with team wins, it's issued to the "most outstanding player."

Posted by BornAndRaised_LA
Springfield, VA
Member since Oct 2018
5339 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:00 pm to
Lamar lost 3, including his final 2 games pre ceremony.

One of which was as the #5 team where he lost to an unranked Houston with the stat line:

20/43, 211, 1 TD (QBR 31.7) with 25 rushes for 33 yds (1.3 ypc)
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
13366 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:02 pm to
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The Heisman has nothing to do with team wins, it's issued to the "most outstanding player."
People argue this every year and it's proven not to be true 90% of the time. The Heisman goes to the one on the better team.

Plus voters see LSU leaving him in to run up his stats.
This post was edited on 11/21/23 at 9:05 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
53436 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:04 pm to
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People argue this every year and it's proven not to be true 90% of the time.






I guess that depends on how smart the voters are and if they understand what the award is for.

If you were a voter, for instance, it's clear you'd throw out some crazy vote as you don't understand the award.
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