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re: Gruden, McGee, or Petrino

Posted on 4/22/12 at 7:17 am to
Posted by ironsides
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
8153 posts
Posted on 4/22/12 at 7:17 am to
Any of those 3 would have about as much success as Jamele hill - although you have a better shot at her than gruden
Posted by mrbroker
Sylacauga Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
16575 posts
Posted on 4/22/12 at 7:20 am to
Mr Ham..I would like a romp in the hay with Elle Mcpherson or Cindy Crawford, but then again I can dream. Gruden has it made and has turned down better and bigger jobs then arky and is making around 7 mil per year I think..Yes I an convinced he will drop what he is doing to come coach your team.
Posted by Cullen81
God's country
Member since Aug 2011
151 posts
Posted on 4/22/12 at 7:36 am to
It's been reported Skip Holtz was seen in Arkansas on a Harley with a hot blonde.
Posted by SLC
Hiwasse, AR
Member since Oct 2007
15522 posts
Posted on 4/22/12 at 8:09 am to
If you take the time to look at the Gruden thread you will see most Arkansas fans aren't buying the Gruden rumor, although Miami and Notre Dame are not elite jobs anymore. Most who re supporting the Gruden rumor are heading it from someone else, who supposedly have inside sources (not buying it myself).
Posted by trillhog
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Posted on 4/22/12 at 8:57 am to
Gruden is in! i just heard this too.
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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35815 posts
Posted on 4/22/12 at 9:12 am to
I've said this before and I'll say it again.

Jon Gruden ain't leaving MNF for Arkansas, and there is nothing that can prove that he is even interested in the job.
Posted by SLC
Hiwasse, AR
Member since Oct 2007
15522 posts
Posted on 4/22/12 at 9:15 am to
quote:

Gruden is in! i just heard this too.




It's so bad now we even troll ourselves.







Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
The Grindfather
Member since Dec 2010
35815 posts
Posted on 4/22/12 at 9:17 am to
Garrick McGee would be a better immediate fit for Arkansas than anybody else out there.
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
85044 posts
Posted on 4/22/12 at 9:23 am to
quote:

Gruden, McGee, or Petrino

I'd go with Bobby Petrino
Posted by anothergumper
Member since Jul 2010
3496 posts
Posted on 4/22/12 at 9:31 am to
June Jones
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
3203 posts
Posted on 4/22/12 at 9:47 am to
quote:

Gruden


I've never understood the infatuation that college football fanbases have with him.

He's an offensive minded coach that took over a great defensive team that was built by Tony Dungy and Monte Kiffen. Sure, he won a Super Bowl in his first year at Tampa, but it was with a team that was great on defense. His offenses sucked at Tampa.

He is exactly what you guys despised in Nutt: Irratic and not consistent. Up one year and down the next two. Gruden was 57-55 at Tampa after inheriting a team built to win the Super Bowl. His next two seasons after winning the SB, he went 7-9 and 5-11. Then, like Nutt did at Arkansas, he won his division with a 11-5 record, and then went 4-12 the next year. He finished his career at Tampa going 9-7 his last two years.

Does this guy have the burning desire and energy to go out there and recruit after having a nice, cushy job for several years? He's been out of college football for over 20 years and never served as a head coach.

Sure, he's a guy that gets some splashy headlines when you hire him and he will probably do well with the team you have for one year. But...what about years 2-6? Sorry, I don't see him being a consistent, successful college football coach after year one.

Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 4/22/12 at 9:48 am to
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I might be the only one fine with Butch Davis, despite the risk.





He is by far the best available coach, and the risk is really not that high. He and Gruden are the only names that would give me any semblance of confidence that Arkansas could be as good of a team as they are now, 4 or 5 years from now.
Posted by SpringBokCock
Columbia, SC
Member since Oct 2003
3157 posts
Posted on 4/22/12 at 9:57 am to
quote:

've never understood the infatuation that college football fanbases have with him.

Sure, he's a guy that gets some splashy headlines when you hire him and he will probably do well with the team you have for one year. But...what about years 2-6? Sorry, I don't see him being a consistent, successful college football coach after year one.



This.

Plus, he took a high character roster built by Tony Dungy at Tampa Bay and replaced it with self-centered thugs. He had no QB stability and ran that team into the ground. Tampa Bay fans hate him worse than Arky fans hate Nutt. If Arkansas hires him, they end up in a couple of years like Tennessee post Kiffen and Florida post Meyer.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 4/22/12 at 10:13 am to
Butch is who I want as well. If we can keep Paul Petrino for a few years with a Butch Davis led defense that could be a pretty nice duo.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 4/22/12 at 10:17 am to
quote:

Garrick McGee would be a better immediate fit for Arkansas than anybody else out there.


Maybe if we didn't have Paul Petrino as offensive coordinator.

But as long as Paul is here we can maintain the same offense. Therefore, any quality coach should be able to "fit" as a CEO type coach this year. Then begin hiring his own staff and implementing his philosophies the next year.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 4/22/12 at 10:24 am to
quote:

If you want Butch Davis is worse than having a known liar and cheat in Petrino. Davis would get Arkansas sanctions just like he did his previous 2 college stops.



Wait, what?

How is he a known liar and cheat.

He was not linked to cheating At neither Miami or North Carolina.

After invesigations nothing showed that Davis had any involvement in rule infractions.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
40907 posts
Posted on 4/22/12 at 10:29 am to
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How is he a known liar and cheat. 

People like to regurgitate what they hear on message boards and pass it off as fact without doing a little research first.
This post was edited on 4/22/12 at 10:33 am
Posted by oklahogjr
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Member since Jan 2010
36765 posts
Posted on 4/22/12 at 11:44 am to
quote:

he won a Super Bowl in his first year

So he has won the highest achievement.





Also with Gruden's personality and the celebrity surrounding him it will be pretty easy to recruit kids. That and the flash of a super bowl ring. I don't think we land Gruden but lets not all pretend that he wouldn't be a game changing hire in the west. Gruden is mentioned with every coaching search for a reason. He seems like a guy that would fit in better with the college coaches anyways.

Posted by Bernie Moore
Member since May 2010
1859 posts
Posted on 4/22/12 at 11:54 am to
quote:

I've never understood the infatuation that college football fanbases have with him. He's an offensive minded coach that took over a great defensive team that was built by Tony Dungy and Monte Kiffen. Sure, he won a Super Bowl in his first year at Tampa, but it was with a team that was great on defense. His offenses sucked at Tampa. He is exactly what you guys despised in Nutt: Irratic and not consistent. Up one year and down the next two. Gruden was 57-55 at Tampa after inheriting a team built to win the Super Bowl. His next two seasons after winning the SB, he went 7-9 and 5-11. Then, like Nutt did at Arkansas, he won his division with a 11-5 record, and then went 4-12 the next year. He finished his career at Tampa going 9-7 his last two years. Does this guy have the burning desire and energy to go out there and recruit after having a nice, cushy job for several years? He's been out of college football for over 20 years and never served as a head coach. Sure, he's a guy that gets some splashy headlines when you hire him and he will probably do well with the team you have for one year. But...what about years 2-6? Sorry, I don't see him being a consistent, successful college football coach after year one.

+1000
Posted by Lithium
Member since Dec 2004
62078 posts
Posted on 4/22/12 at 1:00 pm to
I heard Parcell
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