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re: Frank Martin, South Carolina Basketball Coach, On National Anthem Protests

Posted on 10/4/16 at 3:43 pm to
Posted by GameCocky88
Mount Pleasant, SC
Member since Dec 2015
4837 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 3:43 pm to
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Getting the majority to admit that there are hurdles for some and not hurdles for others....is the purpose of Kaepernick's protest.


We gave "It's hard out here for a pimp" an Oscar. What more does he want?
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14054 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 3:46 pm to
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Somebody in Missouri is gonna be triggered as frick by this.


Wont be MU basketball team.

When the football players pulled their shite, the Mens bball,female bball, etc, didnt follow the BLM morons.

They were smart enough to smell the shitstika of the BLM group from the Bball court.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93699 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 3:46 pm to
quote:

good portion of our team has come from overseas to get an education and chase the dream.


There's 4 kids out of 16 that's come from overseas.

That's not a good portion
Posted by golfntiger32
Ohio
Member since Oct 2013
12486 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 3:47 pm to
I am guessing the players were to scared to raise their hands.
Posted by Triple Daves
ITP
Member since Sep 2016
5740 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 3:49 pm to
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There's 4 kids out of 16 that's come from overseas. That's not a good portion


2 more from Brooklyn and Philly, which is basically another country compared to Midlands South Carolina.
Posted by GameCocky88
Mount Pleasant, SC
Member since Dec 2015
4837 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 4:13 pm to
Did I say most? or even half? We also had 3 of our 4 seniors last year were from over seas. When you consider that out of the 68 teams in the Tourney last year there were only 63 international players there, yeah I would say by comparison that a good portion of our team is from overseas.
Posted by AUBorn
Itumpka Youtumpka Wetumpka, AL
Member since Aug 2013
933 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 4:17 pm to
Fire that racist white man.
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 4:17 pm to
GODDAMMIT FRANK IS THE MOTHERfrickING MAN. TOTAL FRANK MAN-CRUSH GOING ON 6 YEARS NOW.

Posted by gatorguru
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2014
333 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 4:30 pm to
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Getting the majority to admit that there are hurdles for some and not hurdles for others....is the purpose of Kaepernick's protest. Until that is acknowledged, there can't be a concerted effort from the majority (not just the marginalized) to work towards acknowledging an issue exists and working towards a solution.


just curious but what the heck are the majority of us to do? contact our congressperson for an ACKNOWLEDGEMENT that not everyone is born wealthy? what actually is the end game here?


dialogue...it wouldn't be a question from reporters or the subject of a post on the rant if the protest never was.

The end game imo would be that empathy is the first emotion expressed when learning of a death (civilian or cop, black or white). SECOND if we can stop having such an accusatory and blameworthy tone when looking at these situations. Folks try so hard to place one party in the right/wrong in these situations that it does nothing to unite.

sometimes the cops are justified, sometimes they are not. But even when the cops actions are not justifiable, there are folks who will victim blame until they are blue in the face.

"WHY was the hurdle in his lane?"
" What was he doing trying to jump over it?"
" He should have been walking instead of running."
" That's what I always do. What's so hard about doing xyz"

Sometimes those are legitimate questions, but the majority of the time those types of questions seem to be incessantly directed at the victim's actions.
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37298 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 4:39 pm to
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Folks try so hard to place one party in the right/wrong in these situations that it does nothing to unite.


it doesn't seem to me that majority that are doing the complaining on race matters are doing anything to unite people at this point. in fact, i'd argue that they are trying to do nothing but divide us further. kaepernick and his pig socks certainly did nothing to help.


Posted by Lucky5150
B.S.L.
Member since Jun 2016
1557 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 5:00 pm to
Brilliant!! Took your brain a long time to come up with that, Einstein
Posted by Robert Goulet
Member since Jan 2013
9999 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 5:08 pm to
That racist prick needs to check his privilege.
Posted by Upperaltiger06
North Alabama
Member since Feb 2012
3944 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 7:57 pm to
His white priveledge allows him to feels this way.
Posted by GoBigOrange86
Meine sich're Zuflucht
Member since Jun 2008
14486 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:04 pm to
empathy is good. I'm a fan of empathy.
This post was edited on 10/4/16 at 8:06 pm
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:09 pm to
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even when the cops actions are not justifiable, there are folks who will victim blame until they are blue in the face.


The opposite of this is even more true, ijs.

As for this "we need to have a dialogue" talk. Enough. We've BEEN having a dialogue on this for years (probably ever since Ferguson went down).

The time for words and gestures has long since passed. Time for legitimate action on these supposed widespread grievances and oppression. Guess what? That part isn't sexy. It isn't quick. It won't gain you much notoriety. It's not able to be hashtagged. But if you have a legit beef, act on it, don't give more gestures that, in truth, bring more attention to YOU than the issues you're supposedly trying to correct.

This post was edited on 10/4/16 at 8:10 pm
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37605 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:10 pm to
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He's right but will undoubtedly be called racist by someone.



And when they do we can point to his black wife and Cuban parents and tell all those who pull the race card on him to pound sand up their frickin' whiny crybaby asses.

Posted by AU4real35
Member since Jan 2014
16065 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:11 pm to
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We can't unite if the person without the same obstacles doesn't understand why the guy jumping hurdles is "held back" or "way behind" the person running a 10.5 100m dash.


There's another side to this situation that you fail to acknowledge. It's not only about the person that doesn't have obstacles understanding why the other one does, but it's also about the people who have obstacles understanding why the others don't. It's a two way street, unity is about learning from each other. It's not one side is wrong and the other side is right, it's about we both have problems and what are the general solutions for a greater good.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37605 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:18 pm to
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he is actually supporting Kaepernick but most who upvoted failed to comprehend that because he stated his position so eloquently.


No he wasn't .... I listened to the entire interview live and he was not supporting Kaepernick. He wasn't calling him out directly, but he was saying that if you are going to protest something make it a good cause. He implied this Kaepernick thing is not a good cause and he asked his team a question to prove why.

He also went on to say he would be very disappointed if one of his players did it ... plus a lot of other stuff.

Other fans are starting to find out why we love the guy, and so do his players.
Posted by gatorguru
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2014
333 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 9:19 pm to
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I listened to the entire interview live and he was not supporting Kaepernick. He wasn't calling him out directly, but he was saying that if you are going to protest something make it a good cause. He implied this Kaepernick thing is not a good cause and he asked his team a question to prove why.


didn't listen to the interview but that is very ballsy of him if that's what he said. It's The same reason Harbaugh immediately backed off similar comments. They are coaches in major D1 sports dominated by african american males.

To make the statement that "the protest is not a good cause" is very incendiary. You can question the method of protest, but to question the worthiness of the cause..that's so ridiculous. Shows a total lack of concern for issues that don't effect your daily life. And if it doesn't concern you, then let him protest in whatever manner he wants.



Posted by MeatPants
Member since Nov 2015
8853 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 9:29 pm to
If somebody would have rose their hand frank Martin would have beat the kid to a pulp and kicked him out the program. Even though his points have some validity, it seems pretty shallow

You have a white older guy who has absolute authority over these kids lives who are mostly black. His statements are going to ring hollow
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