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re: Ford Foundation Threatens to Pull $20 Million from Ole Miss
Posted on 3/23/15 at 4:38 pm to Tornado Alley
Posted on 3/23/15 at 4:38 pm to Tornado Alley
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No, I do not.
Then we simply differ in opinion. Its a message board, its going to happen.
This has turned into a conversation between two posters. Lets end it.
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Posted on 3/23/15 at 4:41 pm to Henry Jones Jr
You going to call them on it and risk it?
Posted on 3/23/15 at 4:48 pm to anc
Make the donation, and allow folks to do their jobs.
Don't hold the university for ransom.
Otherwise, keep your money,
Don't hold the university for ransom.
Otherwise, keep your money,
Posted on 3/23/15 at 5:06 pm to anc
So can someone give some background here? What's the deal with the Chancellor? Why did the board think they could choose new hires (that's just not how it works)? Beyond one disagreement over one hiring why does the board have issues with the Chancellor?
With the Ford Foundation saying they will pull funding and Archie Manning asking them to reconsider it sounds like there's a lot more going on. Most wouldn't care one way or another about who the chancellor is unless there's more going on or the board is seen as a political/untrustworthy/corrupt entity.
With the Ford Foundation saying they will pull funding and Archie Manning asking them to reconsider it sounds like there's a lot more going on. Most wouldn't care one way or another about who the chancellor is unless there's more going on or the board is seen as a political/untrustworthy/corrupt entity.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 5:08 pm to anc
Could this shut down Ole Miss?
Posted on 3/23/15 at 5:13 pm to texag7
Yes.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 5:20 pm to UMRealist
quote:That is pretty dumb. IHL is anything but an "outside entity". Don't believe me? Go read their minutes. You can find them online.
Idc about Dan leaving but I don't like that an outside entity can make decision like this for us.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 5:37 pm to Diamondawg
But it still largely makes no sense. Why can't the school itself decide what's best for the school? Why must IHL control the actions of all in-state universities? It seems unneeded, and would be much more efficient if the schools were just allowed to choose for themselves.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 5:39 pm to anc
I hear UAB may have an opening and would likely want someone with experience in education and the medical field. Seems like a good match
Posted on 3/23/15 at 5:40 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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like 90% of the people associated with Ole Miss couldn't stand him
No the people who can't stand him are the ones who cuss out the bear mascot and care more about tradishuns than the strides we've made nationally over the past decade. Honestly it's mostly the out of state crowd who come in and don't know jack shite about ole miss but yell the south will rise again and put Dixie flags they buy online in their dorm because it's cool.
And it's kind of ironic that so many people who threatened to stop giving to ole miss over something as silly as a mascot are now being shown what that really looks like when actual money players are doing the same thing over a position that matters.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 5:50 pm to RebelExpress38
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No the people who can't stand him are the ones who cuss out the bear mascot
I want to kick some people in the nuts so hard that they can feel them in their throat when they do this. I wasn't a fan of the black bear when it was first announced but good lord. It's a mascot for children. I saw grown damn men cussing the mascot in front of children trying to take pictures with it. And when I say grown men, they weren't frat stars. They were mid-30's men drunk off their asses trying to look cool and the sad thing was there were people that took up to cheering them after they did it.
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the strides we've made nationally over the past decade.
We haven't done much in this area over the last decade. Hell a few years ago we were international news because someone claimed there was a racist riot going on on campus after Obama was elected. We're still viewed as racist and honestly, it doesn't matter what we do now or in the future because people will always look at Ole Miss as the school that rioted and killed two people in 1962 because a black man was enrolling. It doesn't matter how many streets we rename, or how many statues we build or how many awareness weeks we have. It will always be there and it will always be what the majority of the nation will think of when the name Ole Miss is mentioned.
This post was edited on 3/23/15 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 3/23/15 at 5:54 pm to Henry Jones Jr
I hate what you're saying, but I can't help but think it's true. Especially with the "black man hanging in a tree" nonsense that happened last week in Jackson. Tis the cross for Mississippi as a state to bear, sadly.
This post was edited on 3/23/15 at 5:55 pm
Posted on 3/23/15 at 5:55 pm to Henry Jones Jr
Shea gone.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 6:08 pm to TMRebel
quote:Every school has a governing oversight group. Call it a Board of Trustees, Board of Regents or an agency that oversees all public 4 year universities in our state; called IHL. So if Ole Miss had its own BOT and they decided that it was time for Dan to go, would that make it more palatable?
But it still largely makes no sense. Why can't the school itself decide what's best for the school? Why must IHL control the actions of all in-state universities? It seems unneeded, and would be much more efficient if the schools were just allowed to choose for themselves.
IHL existed long before the Ayers' case was settled but I suspect to ensure that it is followed and the money divvied according to the settlement, one oversight board over all 8 schools is needed.
DISCLAIMER: My opinion on this has nothing to do with whether or not their decision was the right one. I am familiar with every OM Chancellor since Porter Fortune and I like Dan. First met him in probably 1993. But, I don't know what they know. They used to sign my paycheck.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 6:16 pm to Diamondawg
I know nothing of the reasons the contract was not renewed but if the Ford Fondation are threatening to pull 20 large, tell them to stick it up their arse and borrow the money from the football team. Problem solved.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 6:19 pm to Diamondawg
quote:yes actually. That was my point.
So if Ole Miss had its own BOT and they decided that it was time for Dan to go, would that make it more palatable?
Posted on 3/23/15 at 6:31 pm to Diamondawg
Yes, that's pretty much correct. Seems odd that Ole Miss doesn't really have much of a say in who runs the show.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 6:38 pm to Tornado Alley
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Where did you come up with the idea that the Ford Foundation is "serious?" Did you glean it from the article you posted or do you actually know?
HottyToddy.com is reporting it also. Ed meek owns this and doesn't post stuff for the hell of it.
It seems pretty clear. Ford is pulling the money if Jones is not reinstated.
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Tom Papa, president of the Gertrude C. Ford Foundation board, told MPB reporter Sandra Knispel during a broadcast Monday afternoon that a $20 million donation for a new science center on the Oxford campus would be rescinded if Dan Jones was not chancellor of the university because the decision seemed motivated by reasons beyond his job performance.
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This post was edited on 3/23/15 at 6:41 pm
Posted on 3/23/15 at 6:49 pm to TMRebel
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But it still largely makes no sense. Why can't the school itself decide what's best for the school? Why must IHL control the actions of all in-state universities? It seems unneeded, and would be much more efficient if the schools were just allowed to choose for themselves.
We need to have our own Board of Trustees. There is NO reason that MSU and USM alums on the board should be deciding what's best for Ole Miss. It's utterly ridiculous. That being said, I know at least 3 Om alums on the IHL voted to not renew his contract. There may be more, I haven't checked.
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