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re: Florida State is from the weakest AQ conference..

Posted on 12/24/13 at 4:49 am to
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
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Posted on 12/24/13 at 4:49 am to
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He is just horrible at posting no matter the name. Miyagi is on the same level imo.


I have sound reasoning for thinking that AU will get beaten.

The general public and Las Vegas agree with me.

Don't be so butthurt, because not everyone here is blinded by SEC homerism.
Posted by LanierSpots
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Posted on 12/24/13 at 4:57 am to
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The general public and Las Vegas agree with me.


Auburn has beaten the vegas spread 9 of the 12 games this year


Id be careful about believing everything you read on the internet

Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
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Posted on 12/24/13 at 5:03 am to
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I think FSU has the best team in the country. But AU has an advantage, related to the OP, that is much of the reason for the SEC's success in the NC....level of competition. Who has FSU played? Clemson and a one-armed UF. AU has played good LSU/OM/A&M/UGA teams, UA and Missouri. Auburn is going to have to bring their A game, no doubt, but they are tested. FSU hasn't been yet, save BC.

And ND played a harder schedule, and was "tested" much more so than Bama. This didn't matter when the two teams lined up against one another. The talent level was just way too much to overcome.

Both are great teams offensively, but AU's defense really sucks. They won't be able to stop FSU.

People cry "SEC>ACC", but in reality, it's FSU that more resembles the typical SEC teams that have been winning recent championships. These are also the same types of players, the same areas that SEC teams recruit.

ETA: And FSU is comprised of SEC coaches.
This post was edited on 12/24/13 at 5:12 am
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
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Posted on 12/24/13 at 5:09 am to
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Auburn has beaten the vegas spread 9 of the 12 games this year

But there's still sound reasoning as to why Vegas sees things the way they do. It's also much better reasoning than what you find on this SEC message board.
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Id be careful about believing everything you read on the internet

There's plenty of AU/stupid SEC fans for me to not believe on the Internet.
Posted by weagle99
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Posted on 12/24/13 at 8:49 am to
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They won't be able to stop FSU.


But of course FSU will be able to stop Auburn.

Pre Iron Bowl: Auburn won't be able to run on Bama.
Pre SECCG: Auburn won't be able to stop Missouri's receivers.

Why do so many people think FSU is the only team getting ready for this game?

Just admit you want Auburn to lose and quit hiding behind Vegas, etc.
This post was edited on 12/24/13 at 8:51 am
Posted by weagle99
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Posted on 12/24/13 at 8:55 am to
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And they needed miracles to get through a few of those games, and did lose to LSU by two TDs.


The Bama win was not a miracle.
Georgia? We had our foot on them the whole game, let up near the end, and almost lost. But, we won.

The AU team of today is much better than the team that played LSU. They caught us at the right time so props to them for taking advantage.
Posted by Florida225
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Posted on 12/24/13 at 9:22 am to
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And Alabama's defense is better than LSU




The only difference is, poor head coaching lost you the game, not bad defense.
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
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Posted on 12/24/13 at 9:34 am to
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Pre Iron Bowl: Auburn won't be able to run on Bama. Pre SECCG: Auburn won't be able to stop Missouri's receivers.

Irrelevant.

And again.... LSU did a good job of stopping AU, and won by two TDs.
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Just admit you want Auburn to lose and quit hiding behind Vegas, etc.

Of course I want AU to lose, but this goes both ways, and you want them to win.

My belief that they will lose is more rooted in logic than your belief that they will win. I'm not hiding behind Vegas. I'm just pointing our that pretty much everyone besides the blind SEC homers think that FSU will win. In other words..... Most people with no dog in this fight expect FSU to win.

AU/retarded SEC fans are basing their predictions more on who they want to win I am. Get a fricking clue.
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 12/24/13 at 9:38 am to
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LSU did a good job of stopping AU
Not really. If you watch the game again, AU ran the ball very effectively the entire game. Unfortunately, Malzahn was still figuring out the best offense for this group of players at the time and was still calling unnecessary and ineffective plays too often.

Combine that with a couple of unforced errors and you get the LSU game.
This post was edited on 12/24/13 at 9:40 am
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
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Posted on 12/24/13 at 9:45 am to
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The Bama win was not a miracle.

Yes it was
AU needed a ridiculous amount of bullshite that rarely ever happens to happen in order to get the win.
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Georgia? We had our foot on them the whole game, let up near the end, and almost lost. But, we won.

The game is 60 minutes.
This was a miracle. There's no arguing it.

You know what FSU would do to UGA?
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The AU team of today is much better than the team that played LSU.

Defensively? Nah.... Not really.

FSU is the team that better resembles most of the recent BCS champions than AU is.
Posted by weagle99
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Posted on 12/24/13 at 9:47 am to
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My belief that they will lose is more rooted in logic than your belief that they will win.


I have been watching Auburn's offensive line shove people around all season. That isn't just belief on my part. They ran for almost 300 on Bama and will do the same against the Noles.

Or, do you think Jeremy Pruitt is a better defensive mind than any coach in the SEC with athletes far better than Bama?

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I'm just pointing our that pretty much everyone besides the blind SEC homers think that FSU will win. I


So everyone outside of the SEC who is tired of seeing the SEC win the national championship thinks FSU will win? Color me shocked.
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
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Posted on 12/24/13 at 9:51 am to
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Not really. If you watch the game again, AU ran the ball very effectively the entire game.

It was a first half shutout.

Playing from behind made AU throw the ball more than they are equipped to.

LSU kept them well under their average yards per carry.

They did a good job of stopping AU.
Posted by weagle99
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Posted on 12/24/13 at 9:52 am to
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Yes it was
AU needed a ridiculous amount of bullshite that rarely ever happens to happen in order to get the win.



Ah, the old 'Bama only beats themselves' argument.

You do realize Auburn left points on the field also right? I can make the same argument the other way that AU should have won by more points.

There was nothing miraculous about the last play. Gus put the players on the field to take advantage of what Saban was doing. Nothing else.

Enjoy your version of events.
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
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Posted on 12/24/13 at 10:03 am to
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I have been watching Auburn's offensive line shove people around all season.

So has the Noles' Oline, and AU's defense is flat out bad. There's no way around it.
Again, FSU looks a lot more like the SEC team in this matchup.
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Or, do you think Jeremy Pruitt is a better defensive mind than any coach in the SEC with athletes far better than Bama?

They do have athletes far better than Bama on the Dline, and at the corners.
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So everyone outside of the SEC who is tired of seeing the SEC win the national championship thinks FSU will win? Color me shocked.

Vegas doesn't give a frick what conference wins.

This is the second time I'll post this. I don't expect you to change your mind as to who you think will win the game, but maybe you can at least get a clue as to why people expect an FSU win, instead of writing it off as people being haters, or whatever bullshite is floating around between your ears.
Why Vegas thinks FSU>AU
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The point, as White or Fuhrman or Avello or anyone in Vegas would note, is not to knock Auburn. It's just their jobs to discover the true talent level of teams so they can predict future performance as accurately as possible, and that process requires cutting the narrative layers that harden on top of each magnificent victory.

"In the end, winning is the name of the game, but beating Georgia took the hand of God, and beating Alabama also took some luck," Fuhrman told me.

I would suggest you read the whole thing, and then maybe try not to get all pissy when someone expects the team that is the heavy favorite to actually win.
This post was edited on 12/24/13 at 10:05 am
Posted by weagle99
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Posted on 12/24/13 at 10:19 am to
I will read the article when Vegas demonstrates a success rate greater than 25% with regards to Auburn's performance. Throwing a dart at a board would have probably yielded the same performance.

We'll see what happens on 1/6. Merry Christmas.
This post was edited on 12/24/13 at 10:24 am
Posted by Carolina Tide
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Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 12/24/13 at 10:22 am to
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One play?


yea, we are very lucky


You don't that that play in your sig pic:

wasn't due to luck?
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
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Posted on 12/24/13 at 10:22 am to
Logic and reason bumming you out?

Don't get mad.

Just trying to illustrate why people see AU as the underdog..... That it's not just because they are "haters".

Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
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Posted on 12/24/13 at 10:23 am to
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You do realize Auburn left points on the field also right?

Not as many as Bama
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I can make the same argument the other way that AU should have won by more points.

You can't make a reasonable argument for this.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 12/24/13 at 10:25 am to
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MrFreakinMiyagi
Auburn won. DWI.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/24/13 at 10:25 am to
'Logic' from people who are wrong 75% of the time? Doesn't bother me at all.

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