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re: First to win an SEC title? USC or aTm

Posted on 4/24/13 at 12:13 am to
Posted by bdelarosa7
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2012
1661 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 12:13 am to
double post
This post was edited on 4/24/13 at 12:14 am
Posted by bdelarosa7
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2012
1661 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 12:13 am to
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ehh you implied that Clowney was the only player on a defense worth a damn and then as evidence said you didn't know anyone else on the defense. Solid back peddle though


My original post:
quote:

I'm not sure Clowney is overrated - I would say though that one player can not compensate for an entire defense while one player can almost compensate for an entire offense.


This post was edited on 4/24/13 at 12:26 am
Posted by ASAP
Member since Apr 2013
732 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 12:14 am to

Great thread. Will print out and read it at school Tommorrow
Posted by cramps
Member since Oct 2012
2100 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 12:14 am to
I'm sure LSU had their insecurities during their decade in the desert as well.
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
96110 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 12:15 am to
quote:

If you deduced from that that I meant, Clowney was surrounded by shitty players - you're insecure. My later posts regarding me not knowing any other defensive player was just a fact. This doesn't mean they're not worth a damn..



quote:

I am a fool for not familiarizing myself with the rest of your shitty D (or team for that matter).
Posted by DudeofLSU
Member since Mar 2009
403 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 12:16 am to
maybe...but reading texas ags message board before 2012, it was like: holy shite, grow some balls...
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Dystopia (but well cared for)
Member since Mar 2012
25235 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 12:17 am to
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Just wondering who you would pick and how long it will take. We start playing annually in 2014 so it could be a big/fun game early on

Also some similarities between the teams from last year
In 2012:
Both finished 11-2
Both lost to LSU and UF (aTm at home, USC on the road)
Both finished 3rd in their division
Both beat the team that finished first in their division (USC>Uga at home, aTm>Bama on the road)


Didn't realize this, kind of odd.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145255 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 12:20 am to
i hope manziel and clowney come back for 2014. that game would be off the fricking charts
Posted by Sheetbend
Member since Apr 2013
1267 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 12:20 am to
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Lemme think about SC not having any instate talent for a moment ...


Here is a comparison of the number of 4+ star rated high school recruits between Texas and S.C.

2013 Gamecocks 1 out of 4 in-state 4+ stars
2012 Gamecocks 2 out of 5 in-state 4+ stars
2011 Gamecocks 3 out of 6 in-state 4+ stars
2010 Gamecocks 4 out of 13 in-state 4+ stars

2013 Aggies 12 out of 45 in-state 4+ stars
2012 Aggies 7 out of 38 in-state 4+ stars
2011 Aggies 2 out of 41 in-state 4+ stars
2010 Aggies 6 out of 49 in-state 4+ stars

quote:

The difference these days is we are keeping the majority of them in state, at home, at the flagship.

No you are not.

2013 you got 1 out 4 star in-state recruits
2012 you got 2 out 4 star in-state recruits

Posted by bdelarosa7
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2012
1661 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 12:22 am to
I'm sorry for hurting your feelings.
Posted by ImperialPalace
Galveston, Texas
Member since Oct 2012
2888 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 12:23 am to
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CNB
If this thread reaches 10 pages, does this mean that A&M and South Carolina are rivals???
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
15739 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 12:24 am to
quote:

I am a fool for not familiarizing myself with the rest of your shitty D (or team for that matter).


quote:

If you deduced from that that I meant, Clowney was surrounded by shitty players - you're insecure.

My later posts regarding me not knowing any other defensive player was just a fact. This doesn't mean they're not worth a damn..



Like I said, solid back peddle. Theres a record though
Posted by StrickAggie06
College Station
Member since Sep 2011
597 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 12:25 am to
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A&M gave up 57 to LA TECH


1. We were without 4 defensive starters in that game, including one of our safeties and our best CB. Depth was an admitted issue for us last season and for a portion of the game we were forced to put our starting SLB at nickel back.

2. We were winning 27-0 with 5 min left in the 1st half, before the worst pass interference call of all time on a 3rd and 18 extended their drive and allowed their offense to get going. If that call isn't made, we get the ball back, score again, and the game ends in a blowout.

Go to 58:30 to see for yourself: LINK

3. Starting with that flag, the refs wouldn't allow any of our DBs within 5 yards of Patton without throwing a PI. Seeing as we had the worst known crew in the SEC that game (Ritter crew I believe), the officiating was absolutely horrible.

We definitely need to improve our depth, which we are through the 2013 and 2014 recruiting classes, but pointing to that game as some sort of unquestionable fact that our defense is terrible is extremely ignorant.
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
15739 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 12:27 am to
4 stars + aren't the only recruits with talent. also the state has been noticeably down the past two years, which is why we went into GA NC and FL more
Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
7224 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 12:29 am to
Well dang. Looks like we've secured a higher percentage of top flight talent from a far richer reserve.

So shocking.
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
96110 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 12:31 am to
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2. We were winning 27-0 with 5 min left in the 1st half, before the worst pass interference call of all time on a 3rd and 18 extended their drive and allowed their offense to get going. If that call isn't made, we get the ball back, score again, and the game ends in a blowout.


Holy shite. Is 27-0 not already a blowout? How does one bad call excuse 57 points?
Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
7224 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 12:31 am to
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4 stars + aren't the only recruits with talent.

Agreed. Are we shifting the discussion from TAMU and USC's ability to acquire top flight talent to whether they can identify it?
This post was edited on 4/24/13 at 12:34 am
Posted by cramps
Member since Oct 2012
2100 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 12:32 am to
The W is all that matters. Was that the longest A&M football game ever?
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
15739 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 12:32 am to
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before the worst pass interference call of all time


I've got you on that one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Sv8YN7nOV4

Titled the catch II b/c a tiger fan uploaded it put it really called "the push"


the call was defensive PI
This post was edited on 4/24/13 at 12:33 am
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
15739 posts
Posted on 4/24/13 at 12:35 am to
you have to identify talent before you can acquire it
thats why recruiting rankings suck. everybody looks at the stars
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