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Posted on 5/31/15 at 11:08 pm to Jon Ham
well didnt arkansas lose most of their defense from last year?
Posted on 5/31/15 at 11:09 pm to schwartzy
Well 41-7 probably has a lot to do with the current state of affairs.
Posted on 5/31/15 at 11:12 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
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well didnt arkansas lose most of their defense from last year?
We lost our 3 best players (Flowers, Philon, and Spaight), but return just about all other big contributors.
Posted on 5/31/15 at 11:23 pm to schwartzy
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Gus' high school offense will get figured out at some point.
Posted on 5/31/15 at 11:40 pm to harmonics
quote:Specifically 01/09/2012.
Because LSU has been steadily getting worse since 2011.
Just take a peek at the overall and conference records, plus year end rankings. LSU is now down to 8-5 and unranked. That's not Elite. That's mediocrity at its finest.
Some delusional LSU Pumpers don't want to pull their heads out of the sand and face reality.
Gonna find out in week 2 and 3 exactly where the program is..........
Posted on 6/1/15 at 12:08 am to schwartzy
We're going on 5 years and Malzahn's pre-school offense hasn't been figured out. When are yall going to give up on the idea that Malzahn will just vanish into thin air one day?
And even though the records were identical, you could clearly see which football team was better.
And even though the records were identical, you could clearly see which football team was better.
This post was edited on 6/1/15 at 12:10 am
Posted on 6/1/15 at 2:05 am to schwartzy
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LSU 8-5 (4-4) Auburn 8-5 (4-4) Why is the general consensus LSU is on tDecline but Auburn is still as good as ever and Malzahn is the second best in SEC? I'm not denying our offense was atrocious last year, but Auburn's defense was an abortion also. Both phases are important in the game, and I feel that our team will be more experienced and that Gus' high school offense will get figured out at some point.
Difference is that Auburn hired a great defensive coordinator. Auburn adds a key defensive player who missed last season due to injury. Auburn still has a potent offense. Nick Marshall is replaced with a polished passer in Jeremy Johnson. I dare you to stack eight in the box to stop the running game.
LSU lost their solid DC and hired a subpar DC. LSU kept their atrocious OC. They likely still have a bad QB.
Factor all that in with 41-7. Auburn probably has an easier schedule. Noone has really figured out Gus's offense. Gus has successfully rustled the jimmies of the SEC.
Please no stiff dew.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 6:26 am to schwartzy
I'll take this honestly and not trying to troll or make anyboy mad...just my honest opinion and trying to answer your questions hnestly.
Historically Auburn records go up and down. A great year is followed by a meh year which is followed by a great year. LSU typically has excellent records year after year, but they seem to be playing with less fire. Honestly, you don't appear to be improving. THIS year you might reverse the trend, but we will have to wait and see.
Auburn gets Lawson back and got them a top notch DC. LSU seems to have taken a step backwards DC wise, and have not done anything much to improve your offense. Your QB's still appear to be pretty bad. Again, you might prove otherwise this year, though. We will see.
Maybe. But Auburn has a different type of QB this year. One that seems to be able to throw the ball well, but not run quite as well. Malzahn is expected to change the offense up a bit to reflect this. LSU still has a conservative Miles who seems to stick with a very conservative offense no matter who is at QB.
These are not criticisms (I guess they are, really) You asked and I gave you an unRant-like honest answer.
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Why is the general consensus LSU is on tDecline but Auburn is still as good as ever and Malzahn is the second best in SEC?
Historically Auburn records go up and down. A great year is followed by a meh year which is followed by a great year. LSU typically has excellent records year after year, but they seem to be playing with less fire. Honestly, you don't appear to be improving. THIS year you might reverse the trend, but we will have to wait and see.
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I'm not denying our offense was atrocious last year, but Auburn's defense was an abortion also.
Auburn gets Lawson back and got them a top notch DC. LSU seems to have taken a step backwards DC wise, and have not done anything much to improve your offense. Your QB's still appear to be pretty bad. Again, you might prove otherwise this year, though. We will see.
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Both phases are important in the game, and I feel that our team will be more experienced and that Gus' high school offense will get figured out at some point.
Maybe. But Auburn has a different type of QB this year. One that seems to be able to throw the ball well, but not run quite as well. Malzahn is expected to change the offense up a bit to reflect this. LSU still has a conservative Miles who seems to stick with a very conservative offense no matter who is at QB.
These are not criticisms (I guess they are, really) You asked and I gave you an unRant-like honest answer.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 6:30 am to monsterballads
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cameron beat muschamp with ANTHONY JENNINGS at QB
factor that
Seriously? Cameron wasn't at LSU when Jennings was.
ETA: DOH! I saw Jennings and was thinking Jefferson.
Talk about embarrassing....
This post was edited on 6/1/15 at 8:06 am
Posted on 6/1/15 at 6:36 am to SmithsAuFan
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Noone has really figured out Gus's offense.
I wouldn't say noone. We did pretty good last year, which shocked the daylights out of me. However, in fairness....it takes more than one good game to say it is "figured out". AND, with a different style QB, I suspect the offense will look much different, so we will all have to start over at "figuring out" Malzahn's offense.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 6:50 am to DawgsLife
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Seriously? Cameron wasn't at LSU when Jennings was.
Pretty sure it was Cam Cameron coaching up that 10/21 110 yard masterpiece Anthony Jennings put up in the swamp last fall.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 7:11 am to DawgsLife
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quote: cameron beat muschamp with ANTHONY JENNINGS at QB factor that Seriously? Cameron wasn't at LSU when Jennings was.
Stop posting, men are talking here
Posted on 6/1/15 at 8:04 am to ALT F4
LSU needs to figure out the QB spot, it's plain & simple.
We do that and LSU will be fine.
We do that and LSU will be fine.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 8:08 am to ALT F4
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quote: cameron beat muschamp with ANTHONY JENNINGS at QB factor that Seriously? Cameron wasn't at LSU when Jennings was.
Stop posting, men are talking here
Yep. I embarrassed myself. Nothin new or unusual and nothing that probably won't happen again. I saw Jennings and was thinking Jefferson.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 8:15 am to schwartzy
To the OP: Until these clowns who work on offense can find a way to come up with a functional QB who is capable of completing more than 50 percent of his passes, you should probably just be quiet.
Furthermore, I'd be ok with Chavis leaving had he not been replaced by Kevin Steele, who quite possibly become Lou Tepper 2.0. I haven't been less optimistic about an LSU football season since 1999.
Furthermore, I'd be ok with Chavis leaving had he not been replaced by Kevin Steele, who quite possibly become Lou Tepper 2.0. I haven't been less optimistic about an LSU football season since 1999.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 8:35 am to Tuscaloosa
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Probably has a lot to do with LSU losing Chavis and having a question mark at QB, and Auburn gaining Muschamp and having a QB that people are confident in.
I'd say that's probably it.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 8:44 am to HailToTheChiz
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plus AU schedule is favorable
Well... about as favorable as an SEC West team that also has Georgia can get, but yes. Certainly more favorable than LSU's (though neither has a significant OOC threat)
Posted on 6/1/15 at 9:03 am to schwartzy
quote:AU knocked it out of the park with the Muschamp hire ~ there's a feeling that LSU settled for Steele.
LSU 8-5 (4-4) Auburn 8-5 (4-4) Why is the general consensus LSU is on tDecline but Auburn is still as good as ever and Malzahn is the second best in SEC? I'm not denying our offense was atrocious last year, but Auburn's defense was an abortion also. Both phases are important in the game, and I feel that our team will be more experienced and that Gus' high school offense will get figured out at some point.
Malzhan & staff are very good offensive/QB coaches and they have some damn goods offensive tools to work with.
Miles & staff haven't proven very much offensively. Les is incapable of keeping his hands out of the offense. And many would have to question who is developing the QB's at LSU?
Posted on 6/1/15 at 9:54 am to DawgsLife
quote:You shouldn't, because it's not a word.
I wouldn't say noone.
As to the OP, as evidenced by the responses, it's based purely on perception & speculation. I see people in here calling our OC "atrocious", despite the fact that he coached the 2013 offense to a record-setting season. I see people hailing Muschamp as some elite DC, despite the fact that has hasn't been a DC since the advent of the spread systems & more potent offenses overall in the SEC. I see people knocking Steele, which is almost certainly based on the 70pts Clemson gave-up against WV. Nevermind that Chavis' defense actually yielded more yards to WV that same year (by more than 100yds).
People are assuming that these things are all in Auburn's favor, which is almost surely fueled by the fact that they were in the NCG two seasons ago. However, if LSU has decent production from the QB, the perception would shift heavily.
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