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re: ESPN: How much money is wasted on fired coaches? It just means more in the SEC.

Posted on 11/5/21 at 9:35 am to
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 11/5/21 at 9:35 am to
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What a wild and expensive decade this has been

Posted by red sox fan 13
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Posted on 11/5/21 at 10:00 am to
I know you have to do what you have to do to win and It Just Means More, but these salaries and buyouts are ridiculous. There is no reality where coaches like Ed Orgeron and Will Muschamp deserve tens of millions. The only coach who is worth his salary is Saban.
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 11/5/21 at 10:11 am to
Is this the new Fulmer cup?
Posted by RoscoeSanCarlos
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 11/5/21 at 10:24 am to
Thank you for feeling compelled to weigh in on the inner workings of Auburn’s administrative politics as a Bama fan, but that should be “Run out of town…”

The cowboy was run out of town.
RT1941 ran to his mommy.

It’s called verb tenses. You can use Google to learn more about it.

Clearly you are referencing a scandal, but I have no memory of Auburn “staring down the barrel” of NCAA trouble during Gus’s tenure.
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 11/5/21 at 10:36 am to
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Thank you for feeling compelled to weigh in as a Bama fan, but that should be “Run out of town…”



Posted by Hayt
Ouray, Colorado
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 11/5/21 at 10:40 am to
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Clearly you are referencing a scandal


The "scandal" he's referring to is Leath and Jacobs giving Gus that asinine contract that did indeed end with both of them leaving Auburn.

41 has a better bead on Auburn football dynamics than most. His analyses are usually spot-on.
Posted by idlewatcher
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 11/5/21 at 11:07 am to
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They could have decreased his salary after 2019.


Yea b/c all NCG winning coaches get their pay docked after winning a title for the school.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30264 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 11:50 am to
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Thank you for feeling compelled to weigh in on the inner workings of Auburn’s administrative politics as a Bama fan, but that should be “Run out of town…”

The cowboy was run out of town.
RT1941 ran to his mommy.

It’s called verb tenses. You can use Google to learn more about it.

Clearly you are referencing a scandal, but I have no memory of Auburn “staring down the barrel” of NCAA trouble during Gus’s tenure.
Did I touch a nerve Roscoe?

My apologies if my statement insinuated Leath was sketchy and "run" out of town with $2 million and told to STFU on his way out.

I never mentioned Gus' tenure nor anything about NCAA trouble from either of those men. Gus was the real genius though, he pulled 10 times Leath's $$ on his way out.
This post was edited on 11/5/21 at 11:58 am
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64978 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 11:55 am to
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Arkansas completely screwed Auburn financially when we flirted with Gus.

Arkansas screwed LSU with Les Miles too, or at least Les' agent did hinting that Arkansas was targeting him
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 11/5/21 at 11:57 am to
@ Auburn. How is that number even possible?
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30264 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 11:57 am to
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41 has a better bead on Auburn football dynamics than most. His analyses are usually spot-on.


In all honesty, I'm much too close the AU dynamics than I'd ever chose to be as a Bammer. But what the hell can you do with family relations?
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
6557 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 12:49 pm to
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I know you have to do what you have to do to win and It Just Means More, but these salaries and buyouts are ridiculous.


If you're going to run a high pressure league and fire coaches with winning records, then it's going to take a King's ransom to attract men to these jobs. Schools and fans essentially have no loyalty to coaches. It's not like the Shug Jordan days when you can have a cold streak and keep your job. High Pressure + High Demand = High Salaries.

You'll never again see a Gerry DiNardo situation, with a coach taking a job in the SEC on the cheap because it's his dream (even going so far in DiNardo's case to buying out his own contract from Vanderbilt).
Posted by CockHolliday
Columbia, SC
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 11/5/21 at 12:57 pm to
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Will Muschamp
$19.2M



This makes me wanna puke
Posted by paperwasp
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Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 11/5/21 at 1:05 pm to
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If you're going to run a high pressure league and fire coaches with winning records, then it's going to take a King's ransom to attract men to these jobs

True, and as ridiculous as it may appear on the surface, the ROI for an elite coach is insane.

I'm guessing Saban has earned short of $100-million at Alabama, and the University has probably completed around $1-billion in campus improvements during that time.

Of course this isn't the case everywhere, but the ancillary money that a successful SEC coach brings into the program as a whole still far exceeds what they're paid.
Posted by SidewalkDawg
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/5/21 at 1:06 pm to
Heh auburn is dumb. Wasting all that money on fired coaches while Bama and UGA are spending that on getting the good players.
Posted by SCgamecock2988
Columbia, SC
Member since Oct 2015
14088 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 1:08 pm to
Even though I don't want to admit it, it makes a lot of sense why we hired Beamer.
Posted by Godawgs4
Member since Aug 2016
4303 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 1:09 pm to
Schools are “DUMB AND DUMBER”

Get your coach in place and then give him 6-8 years before pulling the plug.

I include State in that as well. I am glad we have Leach but still have misgivings about the way Moorhead was fired.
Posted by Chad4Bama
Member since Sep 2020
5700 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 1:25 pm to
The Saban Factor has driven a lot of this... programs trying to replicate a fraction of his success while at Alabama.

But...the buyouts are the most ridiculous thing in the sport. Now it's just automatic with the ridiculous buyout clauses...agents get it because ADs aren't held accountable and play with Monopoly money. ADs should take a financial hit personally on a percentage basis for any buyout paid to a coach they hired.

I have no problem with the big salaries...but being paid millions because you sucked arse is just disgusting. It's also why we now have players getting paid for endorsements. Hard to justify denying them money when the Chad Morrises of the world are getting $10 million checks to leave. Talk about a no pressure job.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30264 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 2:23 pm to
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True, and as ridiculous as it may appear on the surface, the ROI for an elite coach is insane.

I'm guessing Saban has earned short of $100-million at Alabama, and the University has probably completed around $1-billion in campus improvements during that time.

Of course this isn't the case everywhere, but the ancillary money that a successful SEC coach brings into the program as a whole still far exceeds what they're paid.
Managed properly, a program with a championship winning coach should bring enough goodwill that the program can get massive upgrades & facilities in the wake of championship seasons.

I always felt Auburn should've been able to build a football only facility after the '10 NC & Heisman season. The time was ripe for Chizik to have petitioned the BOT and gotten the thing funded and built. Hell, if the '10 season didn't get facility then Gus' 2013 NC appearance damn sure should've gotten it built. Why delay it?

If you don't strike while the iron is hot, pussy foot around and wait, time runs out and you're in catch-up mode compared to your rivals.

Posted by AUreo
Member since Jul 2021
2049 posts
Posted on 11/5/21 at 2:37 pm to
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Nobody is really proud of this. It really kind of pisses me off because I'm trying to cobble together $50k to send my senior to Auburn next year.


Go STEM route and it will be worth it!
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