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re: Equal Talent - Better Coach, Mullen or Saban?
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:52 am to lsupride87
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:52 am to lsupride87
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Bama had 10 draft picks last year to clemsons 6 Bama has 9 draft picks taken in the first 3 rounds, clemson had 3
Yea, but we flushed out all our DL talent last year. Clemson still has all of their guys who will all likely be Top 2-3 round picks in the next 2 drafts. So, we will prove to be deeper, but in 2 years when you do a "starters and where they were drafted" Clemson will have a helluva lot of NFL guys on that starting 22.
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:54 am to SummerOfGeorge
Maybe. What I saw last year was a far bigger, stronger, faster, more talented team kick the shite out of clemson in the first half. I mean almost looked like they would injure them on every play. Then slowly but surely that system kept yalls talent on the field long enough to gas them out and they made their comeback
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:55 am to lsupride87
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Then slowly but surely that system kept yalls talent on the field long enough to gas them out and they made their comeback
The system that kept our defensive talent on the field and wore them out was our complete inability to get a 1st down.
Sigh
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:58 am to cave canem
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I have mixed feelings on this, to be the best ever IMHO he would have to have taken a program from the hinterlands to the top and there have been a few to have done that.
To me he is like Phil Jackson, a great coach without a doubt but always seem to land somewhere with so many advantages it would be hard to lose.
Did you just insult both Phil Jackson and Nick Saban in the same sentence? wow
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:58 am to bayou85
quote:The consistency in which he is able to accomplish this with the constant changes in staff & players is astonishing.
Saban ability to get people ready to play and to actually get players to do their job is pretty amazing.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:59 am to lsupride87
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Saban was 8-10 against top 10 teams going into the 2016 season at Bama(equal competition, as Bama has also finished in the top 10). Look at my chart.
You seem to want to talk about 2007 only when it fits the point you're trying to make...like the post above this one.
Saban was 0-2 against top 10 teams in 2007...actually, the top two teams in the AP final top 25. No one in their right mind would suggest that he had equal talent in 2007. If you question that, check how many Alabama players were drafted in 2008. Zero.
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:01 am to lsupride87
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Then slowly but surely that system kept yalls talent on the field long enough to gas them out and they made their comeback
Yeah. Deshaun Watson happened because of a fricking system.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:02 am to BamaGradinTn
quote:Dude, yall were murdering him in the first half when you were fresh. Yall were close as hell to knocking him out the game
Deshaun Watson happened because of a fricking system.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:02 am to PearlJam
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Quit being so insecure.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:02 am to BamaGradinTn
quote:Ok. 12-10 vs the top 10 at end of the year. He still does not dominate when he faces teams similar to his in the rankings.
Saban was 0-2 against top 10 teams in 2007...actually, the top two teams in the AP final top 25. No one in their right mind would suggest that he had equal talent in 2007. If you question that, check how many Alabama players were drafted in 2008. Zero.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:03 am to JustGetItRight
quote:"I just want you to know you've hired a horseshite football coach," Saban told Moore. "But nobody will out-recruit me."
Nailed it. I don't understand why saying this gets Bama fans so worked up. Saban told Mal Moore the exact same thing on the plane to Tuscaloosa in January 2007.
He's never claimed to be an elite football coach, and I'm perfectly fine with that.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:03 am to lsupride87
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Dude, yall were murdering him in the first half when you were fresh. Yall were close as hell to knocking him out the game
Yep. Our defense was playing as well as could be hoped for until they lost their legs.
Oh well
Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:04 am to lsupride87
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Dude, yall were murdering him in the first half when you were fresh. Yall were close as hell to knocking him out the game
"Dude"...
... again, what did a system have to do with it? Nothing.Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:08 am to BamaGradinTn
quote:Damn near everything
again, what did a system have to do with it?
Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:09 am to BamaGradinTn
Bama got bit by the injury bug last year, just like Clemson did the year before, it happens.
There are a lot of factors and stats can be used to tell anything you really want.
But, against top level competition when it really matters (championship / playoff / play in games) Saban is something and 4 depending on how you want to define it with the three losses coming to the eventual national champion in 2008, 2014 and 2016 and one to the eventual NC runner up in 2012.
I'm not saying he is the best in the business but he is very good against similar talent / competition. That is unless you think NC in ever 3 of 4 years should be the expectation.
There are a lot of factors and stats can be used to tell anything you really want.
But, against top level competition when it really matters (championship / playoff / play in games) Saban is something and 4 depending on how you want to define it with the three losses coming to the eventual national champion in 2008, 2014 and 2016 and one to the eventual NC runner up in 2012.
I'm not saying he is the best in the business but he is very good against similar talent / competition. That is unless you think NC in ever 3 of 4 years should be the expectation.
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:10 am to lsupride87
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Damn near everything
You say he had equal talent in 2007, and we're supposed to take you seriously?
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:11 am to CaptainBrannigan
Savant has a process that is dominant. Saban
Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:11 am to Sneaky__Sally
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Did you just insult both Phil Jackson and Nick Saban in the same sentence? wow
The fact that you are simple minded enough to take it that way clears up any doubt one could have about you.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:11 am to Sneaky__Sally
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Did you just insult both Phil Jackson and Nick Saban in the same sentence? wow
The fact that you are simple minded enough to take it that way clears up any doubt one could have about you.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:12 am to cave canem
You just you have trouble considering Phil Jackson and Nick Saban being in the top 5 of their sport. That is an insult.
I guess you may have meant you only have mixed feelings about a part of what you quoted - but it reads differently to me.
Also, regarding Phil Jackson, the Bulls had never won a NBA title or a conference title prior to his coaching career even with the MJ on the team prior to him taking over the reigns.
I guess you may have meant you only have mixed feelings about a part of what you quoted - but it reads differently to me.
Also, regarding Phil Jackson, the Bulls had never won a NBA title or a conference title prior to his coaching career even with the MJ on the team prior to him taking over the reigns.
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 11:19 am
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