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re: Enos is off limits LSU and bama fans

Posted on 12/13/16 at 8:29 am to
Posted by Brageous
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Posted on 12/13/16 at 8:29 am to
he'll be a head coach next somewhere, possibly Arkansas
Posted by therick711
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Posted on 12/13/16 at 8:34 am to
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Yes, Kirby Smart tried to lure Enos last year but it was a no go.


Well, that was before his boss was on the verge of being fired.
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 12/13/16 at 8:44 am to
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Well, that was before his boss was on the verge of being fired.


Has nothing to do with Enos. IMO, Enos is probably the best OC we have had here in my lifetime and that includes Petrino.

Enos is pretty creative and still likes to run the ball heavy. He puts a good route tree together on all of his play designs.

Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 12/13/16 at 8:49 am to
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Enos is probably the best OC we have had here in my lifetime and that includes Petrino.


Of course he is better than Paul
Posted by labamafan
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Posted on 12/13/16 at 8:52 am to
Shame his talents are being wasted at Arkansas.
Posted by AnActualFan
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Posted on 12/13/16 at 9:08 am to
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Bama found a way around his non-compete clause. It wasn't as buttoned down as the agents made it seem. There is always an out, always


Don't know if you are just trying to rustle Arkie or not, but I heard that the non-compete clause was a non issue in Louisiana. I think he stays a Hog too FWIW.
Posted by rockiee
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Posted on 12/13/16 at 10:08 am to
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I heard that the non-compete clause was a non issue in Louisiana. I think he stays a Hog too FWIW.


I have heard this a few times but no one has really given a reason as to why. He would still be facing a potential lawsuit in the state of Arkansas for breaching that contract.
Posted by ScarletFire
Birmingham, AL
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 12/13/16 at 10:30 am to
Some would say we have Enos envy.


Had to do it.
Posted by admiralduckwad
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 12/13/16 at 10:40 am to
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he'll be a head coach next somewhere, possibly Arkansas


this is a great idea...pay our Head coaches buyout to promote an assistant who was an OK head coach.
Where did you get that?
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 12/13/16 at 10:49 am to
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I have heard this a few times but no one has really given a reason as to why. He would still be facing a potential lawsuit in the state of Arkansas for breaching that contract.





I believe it depends on both states laws in this case. Also, I believe the clause is financially breakable as well. Although I dont know how much schools would be willing to pay for an OC outside of his future contract
Posted by rockiee
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Posted on 12/13/16 at 10:55 am to
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I believe it depends on both states laws in this case


I don't believe it really does, he is still going to have an issue in the state of Arkansas either way and I don't think that changes. If I'm wrong then I would like to know. Have some legal background but no expert on this.

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Also, I believe the clause is financially breakable as well. Although I dont know how much schools would be willing to pay for an OC outside of his future contract


I think you are right considering that there almost always is a clause but if that is the case it must be something significant because Smart didn't seem to interested after getting some details from Bert.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 12/13/16 at 11:18 am to
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One final side note: Enos' non-compete restriction states as follows:

"You covenant and agree not to accept employment in any coaching capacity, except for a head coach position, with any other SEC institution ... prior to the expiration date of the term and any mutually agreed upon extensions of the term."

Under Georgia's old non-compete law, this restriction would have been unenforceable for at least two reasons. First, by restricting Enos from working in any coaching capacity, it went beyond the role that he actually performed for Arkansas - offensive coordinator - and thus would have been held to be overly broad in terms of scope of activity. Second, because the covenant covers "any other SEC institution," it would have been viewed as a shifting provision in that the ultimate geographic scope could not be determined at the time of signing because the league (and thus the geographic scope) could have expanded. These arguments would likely fail under Georgia's new restrictive covenant statute, which went into effect on May 11, 2011. Thus, the change in the law deprives us of the potential spectacle of Georgia and Arkansas litigating (possibly in two different jurisdictions) over the hiring of an offensive coordinator.


Posted by Cadello
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Posted on 12/13/16 at 11:25 am to
From Dukes of Hazzard?
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 11:30 am to
Can you link where that is from?

Most of that is speculative and rightly so, because as far as I know, there has never been a lawsuit over a non-compete restriction in college coaching. The contract was formed and signed in Arkansas. Arkansas law should be the only law that really applies in this situation. The other states' law is not relevant because of this.
This post was edited on 12/13/16 at 11:33 am
Posted by Taurus 357
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Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 12/13/16 at 11:30 am to
Enos to michigan State his Alma Mater. He gone
This post was edited on 12/13/16 at 11:31 am
Posted by TFS4E
Washington DC
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 12/13/16 at 11:36 am to
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I don't believe it really does, he is still going to have an issue in the state of Arkansas either way and I don't think that changes. If I'm wrong then I would like to know. Have some legal background but no expert on this.

I don't know about Arkansas, but my understanding of LA law you must explicitly state the areas they are barred from competing (typically down to the parish and/or city) as well as the specific job roles. Even then, more often than not the provision is stricken due to precedence.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 11:39 am to
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I don't know about Arkansas, but my understanding of LA law you must explicitly state the areas they are barred from competing (typically down to the parish and/or city) as well as the specific job roles.


I'm not sure about the details on the contract for Enos but I'm guessing it is either not needed or very specific because of the Smart situation from last year.
Posted by TFS4E
Washington DC
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Posted on 12/13/16 at 11:41 am to
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I'm not sure about the details on the contract for Enos but I'm guessing it is either not needed or very specific because of the Smart situation from last year.


I promise I'm not arguing a position in either direction. There just seemed to be discussion about LA law.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 11:44 am to
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I promise I'm not arguing a position in either direction


Oh, I gotcha. I'm actually really interested in learning more about the situation. I don't think this is black or white either. This is something they can be argued either way depending on the way you look at it. There is also so much guessing because we don't have the full contract of Enos in front of us.

Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 12/13/16 at 12:24 pm to
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Nothing on LSU's end
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You should do some research.
done.

Helfrich
Kiffin
Canada
Briles

Only names considered for LSU OC so far
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