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re: End corrupt officiating in the SEC
Posted on 10/1/15 at 7:12 am to Chris Warner
Posted on 10/1/15 at 7:12 am to Chris Warner
Should we have an LSU grad?
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Posted on 10/1/15 at 7:19 am to Chris Warner
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End corrupt officiating in the SEC
Remove Steve Shaw. Bama grad
Whatever to tell yourself that you didn't just, you know... lose?
You're like that kid online who screams about how the top player is always hacking - even on a console.
Posted on 10/1/15 at 7:20 am to offshoretrash
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It does get frustrating when you know before the game even starts you are gonna get screwed out of several calls that day.
You guys are funny, in a pitiful kind of way. 
Posted on 10/1/15 at 7:27 am to Chris Warner
How about
End the damn whining about the officials
and play football??
End the damn whining about the officials
and play football??
Posted on 10/1/15 at 7:41 am to Chris Warner
I think it's funny that just about everyone in opposition to the OP is a Bama fan. Methinks they fear the potential fallout from Ritter no longer being able to keep them in games (like the Ole Miss game, which they lost but would have lost by three touchdowns if not for Ritter).
You Bama fans take for granted that Ritter calls every big game you're in. Just know that all good things have to come to an end sometime...
You Bama fans take for granted that Ritter calls every big game you're in. Just know that all good things have to come to an end sometime...
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:02 am to GeauxToBed
Exactly how did he keep Alabama in the Ole Miss game?
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:08 am to Chris Warner
This fat puke is the most biased, unethical, and downright dishonest official in the business.
Worthless POS is a former Vandy player. Fulmer literally banned his sorry arse from Neyland. Kiffin and Doofus didn't get the memo. They learned quickly of the error of their ways.
Allama Matthews.
Worthless POS is a former Vandy player. Fulmer literally banned his sorry arse from Neyland. Kiffin and Doofus didn't get the memo. They learned quickly of the error of their ways.
Allama Matthews.
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:11 am to Chris Warner
Dick Burleson should have been arrested for what he pulled in 2009.
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:14 am to GeauxToBed
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Ritter no longer being able to keep them in games
When, exactly, has Ritter "kept Bama in games"?
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You Bama fans take for granted that Ritter calls every big game you're in. Just know that all good things have to come to an end sometime..
You've gotten it all wrong. Matt Austin is our guy. Bama 6-2 against ranked opponents with him. Tide only 7-6 against ranked opponents with Ritter. Bama is actually less likely to win with Ritter than other Refs - facts and stuff
Matt Austin - 19 Games, Record Overall 17-2, Against Ranked Opponents 6-2
Tom Ritter - 18 Games, Record Overall 11-7, Against Ranked Opponents 7-6
Penn Wagers - 12 Games, Record Overall 12-0, Against Ranked Opponents 2-0
Hubert Owens - 11 games, Record Overall 10-1, Against Ranked Opponents 3-0
Matt Moore - 10 Games, Record Overall 9-1, Against Ranked Opponents 1-1
Ken Williamson - 9 games, Record Overall 9-0, Against Ranked Opponents 1-0
Marc Curles - 8 Games, Record Overall 8-0, Against Ranked Opponents 2-0
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:24 am to Draconian Sanctions
Serious question. Why do we even have SEC,ACC, BIG 12, etc officials?
Why don't we have NCAA officials? With the geographic size of some of these conferences now, the travel cost excuse does not seem to apply as I'd did 30 years ago.
Have X number of teams of officials that move between seperate conference games from week to week.
Theses are NCAA rules, I don't know of any rules that are unique to conferences.
Why don't we have NCAA officials? With the geographic size of some of these conferences now, the travel cost excuse does not seem to apply as I'd did 30 years ago.
Have X number of teams of officials that move between seperate conference games from week to week.
Theses are NCAA rules, I don't know of any rules that are unique to conferences.
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:24 am to Chris Warner
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Remove Steve Shaw. Bama grad
Prove it's corrupt and not just incompetent.
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:27 am to Aman
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Prove it's corrupt and not just incompetent.
I know it's hard for people to believe but Ritter and his crew are shite in all directions.
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:30 am to Chris Warner
Surprised it took this long into the 2015 season to get our yearly Steve Shaw Bama bias thread in.
Y'all slackin
Y'all slackin
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:33 am to bamabenny
I don't know if the officiating we had was corrupt but I do know it was awful.
Horrible calls.
Horrible calls.
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:34 am to Chris Warner
LSU=whiny bitches
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:44 am to GeauxToBed
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Methinks they fear the potential fallout from Ritter no longer being able to keep them in games
well i'm sure you are used to being wrong by now
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:48 am to Grit-Eating Shin
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It's always been Ritter & Wagers.
Not sure how I'm supposed to feel now, because these are my least two favorite officials.
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:51 am to Chris Warner
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Chris Warner
you should probably stick to writing crappy articles and failed elections. Arky's have taken over the bitching about refs now
Posted on 10/1/15 at 8:56 am to Chris Warner
You're such a tard. Do you think the other schools would tolerate corruption. You're just another whiney LSU fan.
I think whiney rantards like you are one the thinks that makes visiting this site as nauseating as TideFans. Grow up doofus.
I think whiney rantards like you are one the thinks that makes visiting this site as nauseating as TideFans. Grow up doofus.
Posted on 10/1/15 at 9:42 am to boogiewoogie1978
I know a former SEC official here in Alabama. I have had MANY conversations with him and know him well. I won't say how, as that will surely give his identity away.
He will tell you that not all of his colleagues are able to be objective on the field. He said it is very hard to set aside your loyalties but some guys are able to do it better than others. He is a Bama fan and not allowed to officiate an Alabama game, and he made sure he never called an Auburn game and tried not to be on crews for a game that immediately influenced Alabama's position, but not all situations can work out that way.
The biggest problem? Some guys are just really good at being opportune- the opportune holding call, the opportune block in the back on a kick return, the opportune time to let the coach know who is boss, the opportune retaliation, the opportune make-up call from a colleague on the same crew, the opportune no call, the opportune pass interference, and the opportune personal foul of who initiated and retaliated- their choice on who the flag is on. The big deal from supervisor of officials is to recognize your own bias and try to set it aside and be blind to the team colors, but if you can't do it, don't get caught. The opportune penalty is the best penalty because you can't be caught.
There is zero doubt in his mind that the attitude of the coach is number one on the minds of the officials. Some really dread officiating certain teams because of the coach, and that in turn affects how they view things on the field against that team.
One thing that intrigues me is how certain teams are pattern penalized. He says that programs and fans have reputations among the officials. Certain programs are considered rogue and they are going to catch everything they can. Florida is hated most and it isn't really close and it doesn't matter who the coach is. The perception is that they are not really a southern team but a Yankee team and only one step up from Miami Thugs. Georgia will get a lot penalties and LSU will also. Mostly, those fans are not well-regarded by the officials. Other times, they feel bad about calling costly penalties at times that really hurt that team. Vanderbilt, Mississippi State, and Kentucky fit that category most.
And, yes, some of them are influenced by the fans, but not in a way you expect. Some like to egg on the fans and if they get a bunch of loud boos, they will find yet another penalty to call and piss them off even more. Many will also watch the replay on the screen, but they are not supposed to.
Another thing that is interesting is his perspective on neutral officiating crews: crews that officiate out of league games. He said it is really difficult because of lack of familiarity. Certain rules have different nuances in different leagues. And, it is a myth that it is more neutral. Officials are very aware of how those games affect the big picture of what is happening. And, they do indeed have conference loyalty that gets in the way. The bottom line is that they are college football officials because they love college football. It is impossible to be completely objective and it is unreasonable for fans to expect them to be. It is part of the game.
He will tell you that not all of his colleagues are able to be objective on the field. He said it is very hard to set aside your loyalties but some guys are able to do it better than others. He is a Bama fan and not allowed to officiate an Alabama game, and he made sure he never called an Auburn game and tried not to be on crews for a game that immediately influenced Alabama's position, but not all situations can work out that way.
The biggest problem? Some guys are just really good at being opportune- the opportune holding call, the opportune block in the back on a kick return, the opportune time to let the coach know who is boss, the opportune retaliation, the opportune make-up call from a colleague on the same crew, the opportune no call, the opportune pass interference, and the opportune personal foul of who initiated and retaliated- their choice on who the flag is on. The big deal from supervisor of officials is to recognize your own bias and try to set it aside and be blind to the team colors, but if you can't do it, don't get caught. The opportune penalty is the best penalty because you can't be caught.
There is zero doubt in his mind that the attitude of the coach is number one on the minds of the officials. Some really dread officiating certain teams because of the coach, and that in turn affects how they view things on the field against that team.
One thing that intrigues me is how certain teams are pattern penalized. He says that programs and fans have reputations among the officials. Certain programs are considered rogue and they are going to catch everything they can. Florida is hated most and it isn't really close and it doesn't matter who the coach is. The perception is that they are not really a southern team but a Yankee team and only one step up from Miami Thugs. Georgia will get a lot penalties and LSU will also. Mostly, those fans are not well-regarded by the officials. Other times, they feel bad about calling costly penalties at times that really hurt that team. Vanderbilt, Mississippi State, and Kentucky fit that category most.
And, yes, some of them are influenced by the fans, but not in a way you expect. Some like to egg on the fans and if they get a bunch of loud boos, they will find yet another penalty to call and piss them off even more. Many will also watch the replay on the screen, but they are not supposed to.
Another thing that is interesting is his perspective on neutral officiating crews: crews that officiate out of league games. He said it is really difficult because of lack of familiarity. Certain rules have different nuances in different leagues. And, it is a myth that it is more neutral. Officials are very aware of how those games affect the big picture of what is happening. And, they do indeed have conference loyalty that gets in the way. The bottom line is that they are college football officials because they love college football. It is impossible to be completely objective and it is unreasonable for fans to expect them to be. It is part of the game.
This post was edited on 10/1/15 at 9:53 am
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