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Duke and UNC didn't hire big names

Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:38 pm
Posted by 3rdandLong1983
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:38 pm
I don't know what some people were expecting. Look at Duke and UNC hires after Coach K and Roy stepped down. But they have a history of that, going back to the guy right after Dean Smith. Coach K was a nobody and almost got fired after a couple years at Duke. Blue bloods don't always get a big name.
Posted by LewEvansFan
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:41 pm to
Both those guys were in line for those jobs though and were the expected hires.
Posted by nicholastiger
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:42 pm to
Both were already on staff
Already familiar with recruits and seamless transition
Basically coaches in waiting
Posted by Lucado
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:42 pm to
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Blue bloods don't always get a big name.


Especially not after running off a HOF coach who took a pay cut to go coach somewhere else.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:45 pm to
Not sure about the UNC guys, but Coach K and Jon Scheyer had really solid pedigrees. Sheyer was likely hand picked by Coach K, so that made the transition much easier.

Pope played for Pitino, so I guess maybe he’s got that going for him.
This post was edited on 4/11/24 at 9:45 pm
Posted by CatBBN
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:45 pm to
Hopefully Pope will make everyone look stupid in a few years, including me
Posted by 3rdandLong1983
Member since Apr 2024
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:45 pm to
Yeah, but Cal didn't have a farewell tour like Coach K. He left unexpectedly after the season, kinda like Saban tbh. Coaching searches were pretty much over, guys that made the tournament usually don't get fired. Weird timing
Posted by LouisvilleKat
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:46 pm to
I can tell you what I wasn't expecting. Mark fricking Pope?

frick it. Maybe he'll work out.
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:49 pm to
Reminds me of another "who?" Hire in the sec. Anther guy who was know as being a player at Kentucky. The coaching resume wasn't the best, but he was at a tough place for basketball success.

This coach's name was John Pelphrey.
Posted by Mizzoufan26
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:50 pm to
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I can tell you what I wasn't expecting. Mark fricking Pope? frick it. Maybe he'll work out.


Haha… yeah… maybe… but if he doesn’t we are going to remind you fricks you ran off Calipari, who will be successful at Arkansas, while you flounder every single day
Posted by 3rdandLong1983
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:52 pm to
Nah, Kentucky had Gillespie and he sucked and Cal came in and won right away. Basketball you can win with talented freshmen quickly.
Posted by Rzrbackguy
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 10:00 pm to
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Blue bloods don't always get a big name.


Arkansas did.
Posted by Aight is Enough
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 11:06 pm to
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Hopefully Pope will make everyone look stupid in a few years, including me

As unlikely as I thought it would be I’d ever tell a mildcat fan they were not the least bit stupid…well, here we are.
Posted by Primeminister337
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 11:49 pm to
lol it’s crazy how people don’t realize Blue Bloods hire within the family and there is a reason for it. Take your shots all ya want but Kentucky made the right move.
Posted by captdalton
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 11:54 pm to
Dang, for it to be your first day here you sure do seem sure of yourself.
Posted by Razorback Reverend
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:28 am to
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Nah, Kentucky had Gillespie and he sucked and Cal came in and won right away. Basketball you can win with talented freshmen quickly.


Not in the NIL and Portal Era... Dude, things are vastly different now.

Freshmen will not be nearly as skilled enough as most of the team to compete against Jr's Sr's with experience, skills, etal...

Posted by Hayekian serf
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 6:01 am to
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Coach K was a nobody and almost got fired after a couple years at Duke. Blue bloods don't always get a big name.


Duke wasn’t a blue blood before coach K
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 6:03 am to
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Coach K


Best flopper in the business, of course they could not match that

quote:

Roy


Biggest cry baby in the business, hard to top that.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 6:11 am to
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Duke and UNC didn't hire big names


Agree. What are you honestly going to do? They had 3 candidates, all very high profile, and none of them wanted to leave their current situation. With every coach making $5M plus, there's not as much incentive to move constantly. Look at Drew.

Scheyer is going good at Duke. Pope's record suggests he's a good coach. Not a huge name, but not a bad choice either. But this is the rant.


Radio interview with Jeff Sheppard this morning locally, and he and Pope were roommates, and he's super excited for the hire. I think this will ultimately work out well for both parties.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 6:14 am to
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I don't know what some people were expecting.


I was expecting Kalen DeBoer. He was manhandling the job in Washington and I wanted him. His track record and age made him the best candidate for the money. When I found out he was also offered 10 mil to stay put and not have to follow Coach Saban at the Gold Standard of college football and said no thanks, I was in love. It takes a lot of confidence, a little ego, and plenty of talent to hold these elite jobs down. When that guy meets this job the sky is the limit.
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