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Posted on 12/10/09 at 10:24 pm to
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37247 posts
Posted on 12/10/09 at 10:24 pm to
Aint nobody cheating. There's only 1 team in this conference being questioned about paying a player and it aint bama. Bama got screwed out of more than 1 title and all of you know it. AND FOR THE RECORD, #13....is on the way.
Posted by DvlsAdvocat
Your Mom's House, AL
Member since Jul 2007
24491 posts
Posted on 12/10/09 at 11:33 pm to
quote:

Create? No. Claim? Yes. Dvls, you are old enough to know that Bama didn't start claiming those until the 90's. That is if you are honest about it.



Actually, I don't remember that at all...I've always wondered where that claim came from.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 12/10/09 at 11:40 pm to
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Create? No. Claim? Yes. Dvls, you are old enough to know that Bama didn't start claiming those until the 90's. That is if you are honest about it.

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Actually, I don't remember that at all...I've always wondered where that claim came from.


To set the record straight, the claim started in the mid 80's under Ray Perkins. I do not remember it really being "advertised" by Bama until the mid 90's after Stallings won number "12" or "7", however you like to view it.

Fact.
Posted by Bellabama
Omnipotent, Omniscient, Omnipresent
Member since Nov 2009
30878 posts
Posted on 12/10/09 at 11:42 pm to
Why are you such a scholar on Alabama football history?
Posted by SFVtiger
Member since Oct 2003
4279 posts
Posted on 12/11/09 at 9:23 am to
quote:

To set the record straight, the claim started in the mid 80's under Ray Perkins. I do not remember it really being "advertised" by Bama until the mid 90's after Stallings won number "12" or "7", however you like to view it.

Fact.


i don't know if this is "fact", but it was what i was trying to find out yesterday. thanks.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50247 posts
Posted on 12/11/09 at 9:50 am to
Every school with the "Entitlement" mentality does this.

Heck, I remember in 2003 when USC was laying claim to half of our crystal football (which is still in BR, BTW), they also claimed some random title from the late 30's, I believe, a few weeks later. (The actual NC was won by Texas A&M). USC even went all the way with it: they invited the few players who were still alive in for a ceremony the following year, honoring them as champs over 50 years later. So, in 2003, USC claimed not one, but TWO titles they never won.

It is quite funny to watch. It is even funnier to watch fans defend this pathetic action.

Posted by BOKNOWS
Member since Dec 2009
24 posts
Posted on 12/11/09 at 3:27 pm to
I agree 100%, Turds will claim an shared title or any title named 12 yrs later by some dude that wasnt even around when it happened.
Posted by NOLATide
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2007
2576 posts
Posted on 12/11/09 at 3:34 pm to
BOKNOWS

Just what the world needs, another little sister.
Posted by nopussyfooting
The Ham
Member since Apr 2009
274 posts
Posted on 12/11/09 at 3:39 pm to
Okay, let's make this simple and equal for all teams.

Every single team that has has EVER won the AP (1936-Present) and / or the UPI-Coaches (1950-Present) claims it. Notre Dame claims five in years when they did not Bowl. OU claims two when they did not Bowl. Army claims two, when they did not Bowl. Auburn claims one, when they did not Bowl.

Alabama claims two, when they lost their Bowl Game. OU claims one, when they lost their Bowl Game. Tennessee claims one, when they lost their Bowl Game. Maryland claims one, when they lost their Bowl Game. Minnesota claims one when they lost their Bowl Game. Mich. State claims one, when they lost their Bowl Game, and Texas claims one, when they lost their Bowl Game.

Many teams claim one when they lost a regular season game...Too many to mention.

Guess what? They ALL COUNT! Call the AP and / or the UPI-Coaches and ask them for their record of their National Champions, and you will find all of these teams listed in the year in which they were voted the MNC by the AP and / or the UPI-Coaches. It's a FACT and not up for debate.

Every single team in the pre-AP Era that has an Undefeated, Untied Rose Bowl Championship team claims it as a National Championship year. Michigan does, Notre Dame does, Southern California does, Georgia Tech does, and Alabama most certainly does.

If I am incorrect on either of these points, please let me know. Please show me where School X does not recognize or claim their undefeated, Untied Rose Bowl Championship teams from the Pre-AP Era or their AP / UPI MNCs as National Championship years.

Using those two paramenters, Alabama can easily claim 10 MNCs that should be universally recognized by every other team:

Pre-AP:

1925: Undefeated, Untied Rose Bowl Champions

1930: Undefeated, Untied Rose Bowl Champions

1934: Undefeated, Untied Rose Bowl Champions

AP Era:

1961: AP and UPI

1964: AP and UPI

1965: AP

1973: UPI

1978: AP

1979: AP and UPI

1992: AP and UPI

Anything above and beyond that is open for debate.

BTW, Alabama still has two Undefeated, Untied, Uncrowned Bowl Championship teams from the AP Era (1945 and 1966) in their hip pocket that they DO NOT CLAIM.



Posted by PDJ4LSU
Member since Jan 2009
1250 posts
Posted on 12/11/09 at 3:46 pm to
Na na na na NAH!!!
This post was edited on 12/11/09 at 3:47 pm
Posted by NOLATide
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2007
2576 posts
Posted on 12/11/09 at 3:48 pm to
He aint pussy-footing around.
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