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Does ND Being Conference-less hurt them?

Posted on 1/19/16 at 4:57 pm
Posted by OMReb21
Flowood, MS
Member since Sep 2012
2152 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 4:57 pm
Seems as though Notre Dame does well in recruiting year in and year out b/c of their tradition/history, but does ND not being in a conference hurt them more than it helps them? Why do they insist not being in a conference?

Definitely think this hurts them around Bowl season from not having played a tough schedule during the year (sans USC, Stanford)
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41278 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 4:59 pm to
They are quasi conference-less. The play 5 ACC games a year.

And they still had a better schedule than Ohio State, FSU, Clemson and a whole bunch of others.
This post was edited on 1/19/16 at 5:03 pm
Posted by justausedcarguy
Member since Aug 2014
5642 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 5:02 pm to
Not as much as them being nut-less.
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 5:03 pm to
Historically, no.

Nowadays... yes.

But their arrogance keeps them from realizing this fact.
Posted by bofa
Pride, LA
Member since Dec 2015
147 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 5:07 pm to
Unless they joined the SEC or Pac-12 their strength of schedule would still be shite
This post was edited on 1/19/16 at 5:08 pm
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
37612 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 5:07 pm to
Their recruiting is blown out of proportion because of their following and the services wanting their premium subscriptions.

Yes, them not being in a conference is hurting them badly.

Their poor performance in BCS games is illustrative of just how catered-to they are by the bowls.

It'll catch-up with them some day ... soon probably.
Posted by sullivanct19a
Florida
Member since Oct 2015
5239 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 5:09 pm to
What hurts ND is that it's a bunch of dooshes and they are never half as good as they think they are.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 5:11 pm to
quote:

Unless they joined the SEC or Pac-12 their strength of schedule would still be shite


They had a top 10 SOS this year.........
Posted by imraged
Member since Nov 2010
2343 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 5:42 pm to
Nothing wrong with their schedule; they've been top 10 or so in SOS most years recently. Not having a 13th game could hurt them if they're in playoff contention though.
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
15478 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 6:05 pm to
At one time, Notre Dame owned college football, and being independent was the logical choice. Now their influence is slipping fast, and being independent will eventually hurt them, but I don't think they're quite there yet as long as they can schedule the teams they are playing these days.
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
5212 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 6:11 pm to
No if they go undefeated they make the playoff with out a doubt. , 1-2 losses they are at a minimum in a NY6 game
Posted by MeatPants
Member since Nov 2015
8853 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 6:14 pm to
They don't split any money. They rake in dough
Posted by ArHog
Muss is a coward
Member since Jan 2008
33009 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 6:15 pm to
quote:

Not as much as them being nut-less.


Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 6:45 pm to
quote:

They rake in dough


Not as much as most SEC schools.SEC has better TV deal
even split 14 ways.
Posted by mls4bama
albertville,al
Member since Sep 2015
1537 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:24 pm to
Fear
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 8:51 pm to
As long as NBC carries them they are fine. It's not about wins, it's about $$.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37612 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 8:58 pm to
They have not won a championship since Holtz was there in the 80s.

It hurts their recruiting.

Their schedule is overrated.

NBC is not going to carry them forever.

Their ACC deal is a joke.
Posted by chewtobakachewtobaka
Backwoods
Member since Sep 2013
25 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 9:36 pm to
Yes.
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
53826 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 9:39 pm to
It should hurt them. They should have to be undefeated every year to make playoffs over a one loss team that plays in a conference championship game. I also think having divisions in the SEC hurts us. It should be the two best teams in the SEC that play in CG.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 9:45 pm to
quote:

As long as NBC carries them they're fine


They'd still make more TV revenue in the SEC or Big 10.
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