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re: Does Les need to hire a fast pace Offensive Coord. to get a great QB to sign?

Posted on 7/17/15 at 4:59 pm to
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 7/17/15 at 4:59 pm to
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 7:26 pm to
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genuinely surprises me how little I hear from the fans about frustration with Cameron, at the very least from a performance based pay standpoint. 



He's been there for 2 years. He is the biggest reason that Mett had a great 2013 season.
Mett ,in 2012, had 12 tds-7 ints,58% compl,7.4 yards per attempt,and a qb rating of 128.4

Mett in 2013 had
22tds-8ints,64.9% compl, 10.4 yards per attempt, and a qb rating over 170.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 7:52 pm to
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My aggravation is just with the general idea that an athletic qb can't thrive in the pro style offens


Yes athletic qbs can do well in a pro style offense but if they've never ran a prostyle offense then they are behind the 8 ball already. A pro style passing tree has a lot more branches. Hell a lot of qbs coming out of high school have never even called a play in the huddle. Let alone make it to his 3rd or 4th read.
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Les has failed in recruiting and fostering a culture so that there's always a "program" guy or two - 


You also have to take into consideration that we have had bad luck in qb recruits. Zach Lee bails at the last minute to play baseball,ryan perrilloux was supposed to bridge the gap between Flynn and JLee/JJ, and Gunner Kiel gets home sick.
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
18962 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 8:11 pm to
I will piggyback that post with quotes from an article from last offseason.

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In April, we broke down how LSU's offense led the nation in third-down efficiency last season by converting for a first down or touchdown 57.1 percent of the time.

The three key names in that endeavor were quarterback Zach Mettenberger, receiver Jarvis Landry and tailback Jeremy Hill -- all of whom ranked among the nation's most clutch third-down performers
. All three are in the NFL now, however, so it will be important for LSU to identify new players capable of keeping drives alive on those all-important downs.


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Let's face it, whoever wins the starting job -- whether it's freshman Brandon Harris or sophomore Anthony Jennings -- he's not going to zing third-down completions like Mettenberger did last year.

The fifth-year senior's 96.7 Total Quarterback Rating on third down trailed only that of Heisman Trophy winner Jameis Winston (96.9) among FBS quarterbacks. Mettenberger was 58-for-89 for 974 yards, nine touchdowns and one interception on third down according to ESPN Stats & Information. Of those 58 completions, 21 went for 20 yards or more -- a total that was second only to Louisville's Teddy Bridgewater (22).

Talented though they may be, a green freshman and a sophomore with one shaky start under his belt are not going to match that kind of passing production
.


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The question isn't which LSU player replaces Landry's absurd production on third down. It's highly unlikely that one player will do that -- not this fall anyhow -- seeing as how Landry ranked third in the FBS in third-down receptions (28), second in receiving yards (474) and tied for first with six touchdown catches according to ESPN Stats & Information.


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Hill was arguably the nation's most explosive third-down back in 2013, leading the FBS with an average of 13.28 yards per carry on third down according to ESPN Stats & Information. Although dozens of players carried the ball more times on third down than Hill's 18 attempts, he ranked 10th nationally with 239 yards thanks in large part to his touchdown runs of 37, 49 and 69 yards.


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LSU has only one returning wide receiver who was even targeted with a third-down pass last season -- Travin Dural caught 5 of 11 third-down passes where he was the intended target and scored two touchdowns, including the game winner against Arkansas


This final quote basically sums the Tigers offense last year yet this article was written before the season even started. The loses of Beckham, Hill, Landry & Mett were going to be an issue regardless. You can replace the talent but you can’t replace experience right away.

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With inexperience at quarterback and receiver and a next-level talent like Fournette joining the backfield, conventional wisdom indicates that LSU will lean heavily on its veteran offensive line and the ground game, especially on third downs. The previously mentioned factors will certainly play an enormous role in LSU's attempt to remain effective on third down, but this might be a season where the rushing attack is the most important element in keeping the chains moving.


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Posted by Manzielathon
Death Valley
Member since Sep 2013
8951 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 8:18 pm to
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You must want to get tossed from tRant?


Is this some weak attempt at a veiled threat?

I ain't scurred.

Happened once I'm sure it will happen again, it's inevitable when you realize what kind of idiots escape the Tiger Rant and stray over here.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36506 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 10:55 pm to
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The problem with what you posted is that kids nowadays refuse to stay put if it playing time isn't available immediately. Look at all the transfers we've had at the position the last few years. It makes what you mentioned extremely difficult.


Right, and at that point, it's on the offensive coordinator to simplify concepts.
Posted by geauxcoco
Greenville, SC
Member since Apr 2007
11023 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 4:59 am to
We Have plenty of highly rated guys ready to play QB at LSU. It's been a combination of bad luck and lack of development. Let's see what Harris can do this year before you knock him....you might be surprised.
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