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re: Does Alabama count this as number 26 or whatever they claim...
Posted on 1/17/15 at 12:40 pm to arrakis
Posted on 1/17/15 at 12:40 pm to arrakis
Why do you single out one award in each of those years? 
1925 also awarded by six other entities. Dartmouth was the other team awarded any championship, they were selected by two (one of which is your boy Parke Davis)
1926 also awarded by four other entities, more than any other team.
1930 also awarded by Football Reasearch. It's the closest thing you have to an argument as Notre Dame was selected by the most entities. Again though Alabama went 10-0, won the Rose Bowl, and outscored opponents 271-13.
You know an awful lot about the history of Alabama football for an opposing fan BTW. I suppose I'm impressed.
1925 also awarded by six other entities. Dartmouth was the other team awarded any championship, they were selected by two (one of which is your boy Parke Davis)
1926 also awarded by four other entities, more than any other team.
1930 also awarded by Football Reasearch. It's the closest thing you have to an argument as Notre Dame was selected by the most entities. Again though Alabama went 10-0, won the Rose Bowl, and outscored opponents 271-13.
You know an awful lot about the history of Alabama football for an opposing fan BTW. I suppose I'm impressed.
This post was edited on 1/17/15 at 12:42 pm
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Posted on 1/17/15 at 12:53 pm to genro
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No.
It's 15.
14 of which are perfectly legitimate.
What a load of horse shite!
Posted on 1/17/15 at 12:53 pm to bigpapamac
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Why do you single out one award in each of those years?
LINK
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one of which is your boy Parke Davis
...and how is he "my boy"?
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1925 also awarded by six other entities.
....and they are?
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1926 also awarded by four other entities, more than any other team.
....and they are?
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1930 also awarded by Football Reasearch.
...and who is "Football Research"? A one man award like Davis?
You still run from the question - How are retroactively awarded championships legit?
This post was edited on 1/17/15 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 1/17/15 at 12:57 pm to arrakis
They aren't retroactively awarded just because one service did so if multiple others awarded them in the moment. So it really isn't a question.
1925 - Helms, Billingsly, Boand, Football Research, Houlgate, National Championship Foundation, Poling
Dartmouth: Dickinson, Parke Davis
1926 - Billingsly, Football Research, Helms, National Championship Foundation, Poling
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1925 - Helms, Billingsly, Boand, Football Research, Houlgate, National Championship Foundation, Poling
Dartmouth: Dickinson, Parke Davis
1926 - Billingsly, Football Research, Helms, National Championship Foundation, Poling
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This post was edited on 1/17/15 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 1/17/15 at 1:15 pm to SavageOrangeJug
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SavageOrangeJug
Tennessee somehow manages to claim 6, when only 2 were awarded by the AP or Coaches poll. Speaking of horse shite
Posted on 1/17/15 at 1:25 pm to bigpapamac
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They aren't retroactively awarded just because one service did so if multiple others awarded them in the moment. So it really isn't a question.
Sure it is....because your source is what, the 2014 Alabama Football Record Book.
Who publishes the Alabama Football Record Book?...let me guess. Davis' was retroactive, and it wasn't "one service"....it was one man
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Parke H. Davis, decided to set all the records straight in the 1933 edition of Spalding's Football Guide," reported Dan Jenkins in the September 11, 1967 edition of Sports Illustrated. "Davis went all the way back to the first inflated pig bladder to pick the national champions for every season. He used no special formula. He simply looked at the schedules and the results and chose his teams."[
Who are the other sources?
What are their credentials?
When was the award made?
Posted on 1/17/15 at 1:26 pm to arrakis
If you have either the AP or UPI, you can count that. Before those two, championships were basically regional. The north had their champion, west had theirs, etc. If you win the Rose Bowl pre-AP era, I think you at least get a share. We tied Stanford in the 1927 Rose Bowl and both teams claim the national championship. I'm ok with that.
Posted on 1/17/15 at 1:33 pm to AlwaysPutsSeatDown
There is not a single thread on this board that is more of a beaten dead horse. Congrats to ANYONE who is responding by either attacking OR defending Bama. You are gonna look truly silly to 99% of the rest of us here. Like normal. Every day.
USE THE SEARCH function, or stop being dumb and foolish.
USE THE SEARCH function, or stop being dumb and foolish.
Posted on 1/17/15 at 1:42 pm to m2pro
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There is not a single thread on this board that is more of a beaten dead horse. Congrats to ANYONE who is responding by either attacking OR defending Bama.
Alabama has a long and storied history of excellence...which is diminished by bullshite championship claims. If that's an attack, so be it.
Alabama staked their claim for 1930 looooong after the fact.
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Prior to 1950, national championships were chosen by a variety of selectors, and in the 1980s, Alabama claimed the 1930 championship as one of its 15 claimed/recognized national championships.
Not only was it a retro award, it was a retro claim.
Posted on 1/17/15 at 1:49 pm to arrakis
1925 was retroactive.
1926, there was 1 selector (Dickinson), and they went with Stanford.
1930, again, all of the selectors at the time chose Notre Dame. Retroactive.
1934, they got some selectors at the time.
1941...well, we all know this one is a joke.
1926, there was 1 selector (Dickinson), and they went with Stanford.
1930, again, all of the selectors at the time chose Notre Dame. Retroactive.
1934, they got some selectors at the time.
1941...well, we all know this one is a joke.
Posted on 1/17/15 at 5:50 pm to AlwaysPutsSeatDown
ESPN Football encyclopedia list Alabama with 10. The SEC west according to ESPN. East
1. Alabama 10. 1. Florida. 3
2. LSU. 3. 1. Tennessee 3
3. Auburn. 2. 2. Georgia. 1
4. Ole Miss. 1. 3. S. Carolina. 0
4. Arkansas. 1. 3. Kentucky 0
5. Miss. St. 0. 3. Missouri. 0
5. Texas A&M. 0. 3. Vanderbilt. 0
So what's your point!
1. Alabama 10. 1. Florida. 3
2. LSU. 3. 1. Tennessee 3
3. Auburn. 2. 2. Georgia. 1
4. Ole Miss. 1. 3. S. Carolina. 0
4. Arkansas. 1. 3. Kentucky 0
5. Miss. St. 0. 3. Missouri. 0
5. Texas A&M. 0. 3. Vanderbilt. 0
So what's your point!
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Posted on 1/17/15 at 5:57 pm to AlwaysPutsSeatDown
Good job at 26. Right about where Miles should be each year.
Posted on 1/17/15 at 6:00 pm to Douglas Green
It gets boring. Since 1936, we have more than everyone else.
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Posted on 1/17/15 at 6:09 pm to arrakis
Im just curious who do you think won championships those year. Can you provide a link and what poll for whatever other team that should be crown champions for 1925,1926, 1930 and 1931. Do you want to use today's criteria? Undefeated won bowl game? Won Southern Conference Championship. I mean if Alabama shouldn't be championships those years who should? By what criteria are you judging by? Because it sure isn't polls.
Posted on 1/17/15 at 6:12 pm to oneusairman
In 1925, there were no polls at the time.
In 1926, Stanford got the only selection.
In 1930, Notre Dame got all the selections.
In 1934, Minnesota got as many selections as y'all.
In 1926, Stanford got the only selection.
In 1930, Notre Dame got all the selections.
In 1934, Minnesota got as many selections as y'all.
Posted on 1/19/15 at 5:43 am to AHM21
I don't understand the 7 - 1 comment? I said 10 and you said 10? I could have listed it better but I was saying Alabama has 10 the 13 other SEC schools have 13.
Posted on 1/19/15 at 7:01 am to Douglas Green
Nope, do LSU fans?
As far as the other titles, I won't explain it again to either your ignorant or agenda driven, jealous, not as good as Bama over time 12 year old LSU baseball school arse.
As far as the other titles, I won't explain it again to either your ignorant or agenda driven, jealous, not as good as Bama over time 12 year old LSU baseball school arse.
Posted on 1/19/15 at 8:35 am to AlwaysPutsSeatDown
No, this is only 24. Not bad, eh?
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