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re: Do you think a spread offense can work long term?
Posted on 11/6/13 at 11:30 am to Spaceball 1
Posted on 11/6/13 at 11:30 am to Spaceball 1
Hell, Auburn has only won 3 legitimate games since the 2009 season. That's pretty shite for any team.
The bigger question is are spread teams more likely to violate rules because they know in their hearts that they blow?
The bigger question is are spread teams more likely to violate rules because they know in their hearts that they blow?
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Posted on 11/6/13 at 11:31 am to The Spleen
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Every spread based offense that won a BCSNC, hasn't sustained that success. Oklahoma, Florida, Auburn.
The only reason AU and Florida didn't sustain the success is because they left the spread offense for a while. AU didn't run the spread in 2012 and UF didn't run it when Muschamp was hired.
That's the stupidest reasoning I've ever seen.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 11:31 am to parkjas2001
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is now a misnomer. The NFL runs a mainly spread offense.
exactly, been saying this for years. Look at the most succesful NFL offensives over the past few years. Saints, Pats, Green Bay, Colts/Broncos(Peyton). All run A LOT more spread, than they do traditional "pro-style". If anything, what the OP classifies as "pro-style" is a dying offense.
This post was edited on 11/6/13 at 11:32 am
Posted on 11/6/13 at 11:31 am to Killean
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Hell, Auburn has only won 3 legitimate games since the 2009 season. That's pretty shite for any team.
The bigger question is are spread teams more likely to violate rules because they know in their hearts that they blow?
so sensitive.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 11:33 am to parkjas2001
You're just pissy that your arch rivals have won three straight titles.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 11:33 am to hawgfaninc
It all boils down to being able to recruit upper tier talent QB's and defensive players. If you have a successful spread offense, it should spend less time on the field than the defense. Having quality depth on defense is probably the most important aspect. It's a less balanced style of football. I think convention style football is more consistent because of the ball control. Spread offense can't score sitting on the sideline. So conventional offenses don't need to outscore a spread if they can contol the ball, eat up the clock and has a defense that can give the ball right back to them. But it boils down to the quality of defense no matter the offensive style you have. It's all about defense not offense.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 11:34 am to Killean
quote:Your feels... they hurt so much.
Killean
Posted on 11/6/13 at 11:34 am to Killean
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You're just pissy that your arch rivals have won three straight titles.
UGA and Bama have won three straight?
This post was edited on 11/6/13 at 11:35 am
Posted on 11/6/13 at 11:34 am to Killean
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You're just pissy that your arch rivals have won three straight titles.
So what's your excuse for being pissy?
Posted on 11/6/13 at 11:36 am to jafo
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You're just pissy that your arch rivals have won three straight titles.
Sounds like your pissy because your school is the main attraction in the State, yet your guys are usually in the bottom half of the West. That's just sad!
(
@ the Arky guy riding bama's dick because he can't use his school to prove any point.)This post was edited on 11/6/13 at 11:39 am
Posted on 11/6/13 at 11:37 am to Killean
quote:So when was the last time that Arky was any good not running a spread or even beat a ranked team?
Hell, Auburn has only won 3 legitimate games since the 2009 season. That's pretty shite for any team.
The bigger question is are spread teams more likely to violate rules because they know in their hearts that they blow?
Also how did you like that power run game over and over against Arky last weekend, since you are implying that Auburn is just a spread team?
This post was edited on 11/6/13 at 11:40 am
Posted on 11/6/13 at 11:40 am to MrAUTigers
Damn you guys are touchy.
I'm just pointing out that no team that runs the spread has had any legitimate success.
I mean you had people being murdered at Florida. You had a show cause on Chip Kelly at Oregon.
On the plus side though, I'm glad you guys have finally settled on one mascot. I think it's awesome and it sets you apart from all the other teams called the Tigers.
I'm just pointing out that no team that runs the spread has had any legitimate success.
I mean you had people being murdered at Florida. You had a show cause on Chip Kelly at Oregon.
On the plus side though, I'm glad you guys have finally settled on one mascot. I think it's awesome and it sets you apart from all the other teams called the Tigers.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 11:40 am to Killean
What a weak sail.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 11:42 am to Killean
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Damn you guys are touchy.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 11:43 am to parkjas2001
What if you have a premier defense with a premier spread offense?
That is Mizzou.
That is Mizzou.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 12:01 pm to jafo
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jafo
nice post
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It all boils down to being able to recruit upper tier talent QB's and defensive players.
this is key.
But a JFF, cam newton, sam bradford, tim tebow, etc... don't come along very often. And that top tier defensive talent still needs time to rest. their still only human after all
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I think convention style football is more consistent because of the ball control.
yup. which is a key factor to it being better for the long term
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It's all about defense not offense.
true. but again that defense still needs rest. the offense has to stay on the field for a certain amount of time to allow that rest.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 12:18 pm to Killean
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You're just pissy that your arch rivals have won three straight titles.
We are our own arch rival?
Posted on 11/6/13 at 12:26 pm to hawgfaninc
Here is some info on spread offenses...which is a finesse offense...you have to have a Timmy Tebow or a Cam Newton running it to be very successful. The spread is great at stretching defenses...but inside the 20 yd line the field shrinks and you have to have a qb to get those tough yds. It is more difficult to recruit power backs to a spread team because they know they aren't being featured much...the qb, Hback or a wr may be the teams leader at rushing yds.
Qbs like Newton and Tebow aren't found too often, so you better recruit a good passer/runner of a qb to try and score inside the 20. Although a lot of spreads don't utilize fbs much...the Hback will serve that duty and every team pro set or whatever always try to keep defenses honest by giving it up the middle with rb/fb...in case of the spread it usually is the Hback taking a shovel pass up the middle or the qb fakes left or right and then heads up the middle...the whole purpose is to keep defenses from reacting too quickly and blowing up plays on the perimeter.
To be successful it helps if qb can complete a pass when its a taxi cab drive third down.
Qbs like Newton and Tebow aren't found too often, so you better recruit a good passer/runner of a qb to try and score inside the 20. Although a lot of spreads don't utilize fbs much...the Hback will serve that duty and every team pro set or whatever always try to keep defenses honest by giving it up the middle with rb/fb...in case of the spread it usually is the Hback taking a shovel pass up the middle or the qb fakes left or right and then heads up the middle...the whole purpose is to keep defenses from reacting too quickly and blowing up plays on the perimeter.
To be successful it helps if qb can complete a pass when its a taxi cab drive third down.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 12:28 pm to hawgfaninc
Auburn's defense got stronger in the aTm game. I picked that one because they are part of a HUNH team and played against one. They need rest, but they need conditioning more.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 12:29 pm to reel_gator8
Your ignorance rears its ugly head within the first two lines of your post.
A spread offense doesn't require a dual threat QB.
A spread offense doesn't require a dual threat QB.
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