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re: Do the Gamecocks get the Chick-fil-a Bowl?
Posted on 12/4/13 at 4:03 pm to LouisianaLonghorn
Posted on 12/4/13 at 4:03 pm to LouisianaLonghorn
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Why would the SEC home office push hard for USCe in the Cotton Bowl? Your AD may be pushing hard to avoid another trip to Tampa, but I'm sure that LSU is pushing just as hard not to have to play Wisconsin in January and then again in August. LSU would bring more fans to Dallas than USCe, if only because of the geographic proximity and the large LSU alumni bases in both Dallas and Houston. I doubt that Tiger fans would travel well to Tampa for a morning bowl game, so LSU is looking at having to eat the cost of unpurchased tickets for the 2nd straight year. I would think they'd want to avoid that if at all possible.
Why? Because evidently he is pissed that the SEC home office assumed, up until this past Saturday, that we were going to lose to Clemson and that they were going to be able to shove the Peach down our throats regardless of the outcome.
I'll give him this, at least he waited until yesterday morning to start raising hell and letting it be known that the BoTs and he were going to pitch a fricking fit if we got knocked-down to the Peach this bowl season.
SCAR finished overall 4th in the league regular season and it will stay that way after Saturday ...
Auburn/Mizzou
Bama
SCAR
Order of picks according to the SEC by-laws and bowl agreements:
BCS
BCS at large
Cap One
Outback
Cotton
The first three are taken. That leaves the Outback's pick and then the Cotton.
The Outback does not want SCAR back there this year, and we don't wanna go back to Tampa this year. So the Outback is going to trade picks with the Cotton ... and rightfully so, Ray Tanner, as our AD, has every right to use his connections to sway the Cotton and B-ham towards the Gamecocks.
Besides, we've got the most famous kicker in Texas, the Frisco Kid, kicking for us and we're going to try to parlay that into some recruiting while we're down there.
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 4:08 pm to Cockopotamus
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And I'm guessing the SEC office would push for USC to go to the Cotton because it'd be a better matchup than LSU
I disagree. It's usually all about ticket sales and LSU would likely bring at least 25K fans. Also, I don't think that USCe in a bowl game is a better matchup than LSU would be. As a program, we are more respected than Carolina is. That said, we've been screwed by the SEC home office several times before, so I won't be surprised if it happens again.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 4:15 pm to scrooster
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The Outback does not want SCAR back there this year, and we don't wanna go back to Tampa this year. So the Outback is going to trade picks with the Cotton ... and rightfully so, Ray Tanner, as our AD, has every right to use his connections to sway the Cotton and B-ham towards the Gamecocks.
I think you overestimate your AD's influence over the SEC home office.
The switch could happen, but it won't be because your AD intimidated anybody in Birmingham. It's all about $$ and ticket sales. Y'all won't travel as well to Dallas as LSU would, and LSU fans will be ambivalent about going to Tampa.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 4:17 pm to LouisianaLonghorn
USC>>>LSU this year. Especially since yall's starting QB is going to be out. Being perceived as a better program doesn't have anything to do with this years teams on the field
I agree LSU would probably take more fans, but bowls do like to have top 10 matchups
I agree LSU would probably take more fans, but bowls do like to have top 10 matchups
Posted on 12/4/13 at 4:22 pm to LouisianaLonghorn
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I think you overestimate your AD's influence over the SEC home office.
The switch could happen, but it won't be because your AD intimidated anybody in Birmingham. It's all about $$ and ticket sales. Y'all won't travel as well to Dallas as LSU would, and LSU fans will be ambivalent about going to Tampa.
And I think you underestimate Tanners pull down there and connections and who his right hand man is as of this year as well ... but that's neither here nor there. You're acting like a gump right now.
LSU is not a better draw for the Cotton. Show me your home attendance figures for the year ... and I'll compare travel figures with you all day long, including recent bowl history if you'd like. Carolina is a very attractive fan base for any bowl and that's a well-known fact.
And, I know for a fact, straight from the horse's mouth you might say, that the Outback does not want us this year and we do not want them this year. We've been four times this millennium, including last year. We're not going back this year - we'll end-up in the Peach before we will the Outback, that's just a plain and simple fact. Only Florida has been as many times as we have since 2000 - and we're not going two years in a row again like we did in 2001 and 2002.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 4:24 pm to Cockopotamus
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USC>>>LSU this year.
Did we play y'all and lose? I must've missed that game. Y'all got a better bowl than us last year even though we beat y'all.
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Being perceived as a better program doesn't have anything to do with this years teams on the field
In that case 10-2 Duke = 10-2 USCe, right?
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I agree LSU would probably take more fans, but bowls do like to have top 10 matchups
If Okie State wins the Big XII and Texas beats Baylor, the Cotton Bowl won't have a top 10 matchup.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 4:30 pm to LouisianaLonghorn
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Did we play y'all and lose? I must've missed that game. Y'all got a better bowl than us last year even though we beat y'all.
OK, for the last time, USC could not play in the Peach Bowl last year because Clemson was contractually obligated to be there. The Peach did NOT want a rematch.
If you want to compare resumes this season, USC's is better. Sorry, but it is.
I don't hate LSU in the slightest. But damn y'all are butthurt, thinking that you're too good to play in a game that you frickING LOST last year.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 4:38 pm to RoyalAir
I would love to violate texas in the cotton bowl.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 4:38 pm to RoyalAir
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thinking that you're too good to play in a game that you frickING LOST last year.
We are not going back to the CFA Bowl, so that's a mute point. We were pissed last year because 2 teams that we beat on the field got better bowls than we did. Also, we had been to Atlanta twice in the previous 5 years. It's no different than y'all not wanting to go back to the Outback Bowl again.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 5:09 pm to RoyalAir
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I don't hate LSU in the slightest. But damn y'all are butthurt, thinking that you're too good to play in a game that you frickING LOST last year.
Damn. I wish I had thought of putting it that way. That's about as clearly put as it can be put.
But I think we're dealing with a rare phenomenon here seeing as how 99.9% of all LSU fans are solid human beings. But this one definitely has an entitlement mentality and a longhorn's hubris ... he's never going to accept reality, it's a lost cause.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 5:49 pm to scrooster
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And I think you underestimate Tanners pull down there and connections and who his right hand man is as of this year as well ...
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 6:14 pm to LouisianaLonghorn
I understand you didn't want to go to the CFA last year. But if you want to be mad at anyone, be mad at aTm. We couldn't go to the Peach Bowl cos we couldn't go play Clemson again. Your rightful spot in the bowl pecking order, by your logic, was the Cotton. Get mad at them, not us. We could only play in the outback, considering that there were two worthy spots for SECw teams, and we couldn't go to Atlanta.
Because of this, y'all were never up for the Outback; it was the only place we could go. It was Cotton or Peach for y'all. Get mad at Johnny Football.
Because of this, y'all were never up for the Outback; it was the only place we could go. It was Cotton or Peach for y'all. Get mad at Johnny Football.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 6:22 pm to LouisianaLonghorn
Our new Asst. AD came from the SEC office so I think we have a pretty big pull. Also, Spurrier is on record as wanting the Cotton Bowl as well. LINK
This post was edited on 12/4/13 at 6:38 pm
Posted on 12/4/13 at 6:38 pm to Randyh3253
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Our new Asst. AD came from the SEC office so I think we have a pretty big pull.
Cool. Our former Assistant AD now works in the SEC home office. I don't think your guy has any more pull than Herb Vincent does for us. What matters is the SEC is gonna do whatever it wants. If y'all have a good AD who looks out for your program, then good for you. LSU doesn't have that. We've got a pussy who does whatever the home office tells him to do and doesn't ask questions.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 6:54 pm to 1801
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Damn, Charlie is losing his hair.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:14 pm to scrooster
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But I think we're dealing with a rare phenomenon here seeing as how 99.9% of all LSU fans are solid human beings. But this one definitely has an entitlement mentality and a longhorn's hubris ... he's never going to accept reality, it's a lost cause.
Wtf are you talking about? The guy has been entirely reasonable with y'all. You're better than this
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