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Detrich wise vs. Myles Garrett

Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:49 am
Posted by vengeanceofrain
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Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:49 am
Sacks:

Deatrich - 1, Myles - 0

QB hurries:

Deatrich - 6, Myles - 2

TFL:

Deatrich - 4, Myles -1


Not saying wise is Garrett but wise is easily the most underrated player in the sec.
Posted by Old Sarge
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:50 am to
Really? He may be a good player but Garrett dominated in our game, easily handling 2 blockers much of the time.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:51 am to
yeah garrett won't even make 1st team all sec at this rate.
Posted by Thatawesomeguy4
Member since Jul 2015
1585 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:51 am to
quote:

Sacks:

Deatrich - 1, Myles - 0

QB hurries:

Deatrich - 6, Myles - 2

TFL:

Deatrich - 4, Myles -1


Not saying wise is Garrett but wise is easily the most underrated player in the sec.




Congratulations you can pull random stats with no link and form an opinion!
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:57 am to
Stats are the most misleading way of judging an established, elite pass-rushing DE. Once a guy has established himself as a major threat like Miles, he gets double or triple teamed on every play. From that point on, the main contribution of an elite pass-rushing DE is the fact that he is demanding the efforts of 2 or 3 offensive players, freeing up his teammates to make plays. The sack numbers of A&M's other defenders are in part due to Garret, even if he isn't near.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60119 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:01 am to
Are these stats from our game this weekend? Because your website lists Wise with 6 tackles (2 solo) 1 TFL 0 QBH and 0 sacks. Your DL also got straight up dominated the entire game by an OL with 2 freshmen


If these are for the season then your numbers for Garrett are not even close to correct
This post was edited on 9/28/16 at 9:03 am
Posted by HYDRebs
Houston
Member since Sep 2014
1241 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:02 am to
We said this about Robert Nkemdiche for 3 years, but nobody listens to the whole double/ triple team speal
Posted by slacker00
Member since Mar 2011
588 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:11 am to
quote:

Really? He may be a good player but Garrett dominated in our game, easily handling 2 blockers much of the time.


Come on, Myles sucks. Here he can't even handle 1 Arkansas blocker:
LINK
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
20475 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:23 am to
how many corndogs find their way to this thread? the usual suspects, or more?
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:25 am to
quote:

We said this about Robert Nkemdiche for 3 years, but nobody listens to the whole double/ triple team speal


And then Nkemdiche went in the 1st round, proving y'all right and the football-dumb people here wrong.
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37295 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:32 am to
looks like all the tards missed this line- shocker...

quote:

Not saying wise is Garrett but wise is easily the most underrated player in the sec.
Posted by RoscoeHarper
Edmond, OK
Member since Aug 2011
4538 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 10:00 am to
Wins in the A&M - Arky matchup:

Wise - 0

Garrett - 3
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Member since Nov 2012
59599 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 10:00 am to
quote:

Come on, Myles sucks. Here he can't even handle 1 Arkansas blocker:


A better player would have recognized that coming. no awareness what so ever
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33936 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 10:01 am to
Arden Key: 6.5 sacks
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68289 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 10:03 am to
quote:

And then Nkemdiche went in the 1st round, proving y'all right and the football-dumb people here wrong.



Never heard of the "bust" have you?
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 10:07 am to
Doesn't matter, got paid.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68289 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 10:12 am to
quote:

Doesn't matter, got paid.



I think now you missed the point entirely. Where you are drafted isn't always a direct reflection on your college career production wise. The NFL drafts on "potential" maybe not as much as the NBA but certainly there's a large part of that to team's picks.

Nkemdiche showed a lot of talent "flashes" throughout his career in college but it's absolutely a legit argument against him he wasn't nearly as productive as his hype. He just never showed a CONSISTENT motor. If you're truly elite, you'll take that great talent and bring it just about every play. If you do that, you wont suffer in the stat column. DTs like Nick Fairly and Glen Dorsey had no problems working through double teams and still making plays in college.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50208 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 10:32 am to
I'm going to need some kind of link to even consider believing this.
Posted by BarkRuffalo
Boston, MA
Member since Feb 2014
1206 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 10:47 am to
Here to do OP's job for him.

Deatrich Wise, Jr. LINK

6 solo tackles, 13 assisted (19 total), TFL 3.0, 3 QBH, 2 sacks, 1 BRUP

Myles Garrett LINK

6 solo tackles, 5 assisted (11 total), TFL 5.0, 6 QBH, 3 sacks, 1 BRUP

Myles is a clearly beast, but don't sleep on Wise.

This post was edited on 9/29/16 at 4:01 pm
Posted by Realistic Ag
Member since Jun 2014
1894 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 12:28 pm to
From PFF:
quote:

Myles Garrett was the highest graded defensive end in the nation last week, earning an 86.4 overall grade and excelling when getting after the quarterback. Garrett collected two QB hits and five hurries against Arkansas and currently leads the nation with 26 total pressures through four games. He also performed well against the run, earning a 79.8 run defense grade on the night.
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