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Details of Muschamp's Buyout from South Carolina?

Posted on 2/7/22 at 1:33 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 1:33 pm
I know he's still getting paid, and it is my understanding that he has to subtract whatever he makes in another job from what SC owes him. Right now he's got it made, working at UGA where his two sons are in school and/or involved with the team, and getting paid HC money from SC still. But when does that run out? When would he decide to be a HC again at, say, somewhere like Auburn?

What's he making now, how much is still owed to him by SC?

Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 1:38 pm to
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63958 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 1:47 pm to
Nice! Thanks! So he wouldn't have to pay a dime of that back if he took another HC job?

Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
6790 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 1:52 pm to
It was an awful deal (great for him, and honestly I dont hate him for taking it. he should)

It is a contract so bad that we couldnt fire Frank who also has a bad contract (atleast the Final Four was responsible for that)


oh well Peter Principle
Posted by nicholastiger
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 2:16 pm to
Someone forgot the clause to seek comparable employment
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 2:55 pm to
The suit and tie side of our school (BOT and AD) are so bad its not even funny.

if Beamer works out its a miracle, but I doubt he gets a crazy contract for a while no matter what happens just because of the previous bad deals.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 3:18 pm to
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Someone forgot the clause to seek comparable employment


Those are about as pointless as the rooney rule.

Send in an application for a head coaching position. Done.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 3:20 pm to
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The suit and tie side of our school (BOT and AD) are so bad its not even funny.

if Beamer works out its a miracle, but I doubt he gets a crazy contract for a while no matter what happens just because of the previous bad deals.


You are thinking too logically.

He will have a few big wins, the program will fear losing him to a Penn State or Florida, and he will get his crazy contract.

Fear is a big motivating factor. Evenmoreso than love or like.
Posted by DaWGfan01
PCB FL
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 3:28 pm to
Muschamp is just more cut out to be a DC imo, at least for the next 4-5 years.

He has failed miserably at two SEC schools already as a HC.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63958 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 3:43 pm to
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Muschamp is just more cut out to be a DC imo


You aren't wrong.

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at least for the next 4-5 years


I don't know, that's a long long time in college football.

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He has failed miserably at two SEC schools already as a HC.


I don't know about that. I think he was in over his head at Florida as a very young guy (39 or 40?) in his first ever HC gig, at a big time school, inheriting an 8-5 team that Urban ran away from as fast as possible, but he won 11 games in his second season there. It went down from there, obviously...

At South Carolina, he inherited a 3-9 team and finished his time there at 28-30 which is just under .500, and considering that he was having to play Clemson and UGA every year, it's still South Carolina. There is a ceiling there. SC fans will hate this, but .500 is their normal. I wouldn't call it "failing miserably". Hell, .500 is a bowl game every year, something that isn't necessarily normal for SC.



This post was edited on 2/7/22 at 3:48 pm
Posted by BrotherDawg84
Member since Dec 2020
3103 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 3:45 pm to
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school documents show that he agreed to a lump sum payment of $12.9 million.

That settlement figure was paid before the end of the 2020 season, meaning Muschamp made the most money in the year 2020 of any college football coach in the country.
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
95903 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 4:03 pm to
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but .500 is their normal


You’re pretty much saying South Carolina should settle for .500 and that just won’t be (and shouldn’t be) the case anymore.

It’s all about trajectory. Muschamp wasn’t trending up and he had plenty of time. And he was doing way worse than 6-6.
Posted by DaWGfan01
PCB FL
Member since Dec 2017
1470 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 4:11 pm to
I think Muschamp is a hell of a defensive mind at the collegiate level.

I love him being in the CO-DC role at UGA, hopefully for the next several years.

I'm just not convinced from his history as a HC that he is really very good at being a HC
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
25860 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 4:19 pm to
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There is a ceiling there. SC fans will hate this, but .500 is their normal. I wouldn't call it "failing miserably"


It’s the historical norm but that doesn’t mean we expect it like we used to.

It wasn’t that long ago when we were kicking the shite out of the East and Clemson for about 5 years. 0 reason why it can’t be done again.

Plus, Clemson is the smaller school, with fewer fans, with less money. If they can do it, so can we. It’s all about finding the right coach.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63958 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 4:20 pm to
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I'm just not convinced from his history as a HC that he is really very good at being a HC


Look at your options out there right now, if you are looking for a HC at a big program.

He's got to be on the list, right? Former experience, never any scandal, older and more mature now, has two NC rings as an assistant, has coached under both Saban and Smart, and is still relatively young (50), and he's available.

Tell me he isn't getting calls. Say it out loud.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63958 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 4:21 pm to
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You’re pretty much saying South Carolina should settle for .500



No, I'm saying that .500 at SC as a head coach isn't "failing miserably". I know it stings, but it is true.

Look at Spurrier's stats there... including the glory years, he was still 44-40 in SEC play.
This post was edited on 2/7/22 at 4:25 pm
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58913 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 4:27 pm to
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It wasn’t that long ago when we were kicking the shite out of the East and Clemson for about 5 years. 0 reason why it can’t be done again.


Spurrier definitely reset expectations, no doubt.

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Plus, Clemson is the smaller school, with fewer fans
I'm not sure the number of fans or students has a whole lot of affect. However, it could be argued now that NIL has arrived, I guess.
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It’s all about finding the right coach.
I do think this is correct. South Carolina will need to go all in on football, though, and this has not been something y'all have been willing to do with the exception of when Spurrier was there....and maybe Lou Holtz.
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
10604 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 5:08 pm to
South Carolina has the second worst AD in the SEC (behind Bjerk at A&M).
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
95903 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 7:56 pm to
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No, I'm saying that .500 at SC as a head coach isn't "failing miserably". I know it stings, but it is true.


Again, it's about trajectory. If he had bad seasons to start and then better seasons going forward, he would have a much better rep.

Also again, I'm not saying South Carolina isn't a .500 program, I'm saying it's stupid to think we will settle for that. And why should we? Doesn't mean we will ever be thought of as anything different, but if you aint tryin...
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
95903 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 7:57 pm to
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Tell me he isn't getting calls

He isn't getting calls.
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