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re: Dawgs haven't faced a good offense: Chapter 10 -The Vols
Posted on 11/14/21 at 12:29 pm to djsdawg
Posted on 11/14/21 at 12:29 pm to djsdawg
Before we played KY, they were the first "real" offense we were going to play.
Then it was the Hogs.
Then Auburn.
Then FL.
Then Vols.
So what are the remaining "real" offenses? Bama? OSU (if we get past Bama)?
Who has the best shot of overcoming the Dawgs defense?
Then it was the Hogs.
Then Auburn.
Then FL.
Then Vols.
So what are the remaining "real" offenses? Bama? OSU (if we get past Bama)?
Who has the best shot of overcoming the Dawgs defense?
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Posted on 11/14/21 at 12:34 pm to Che Boludo
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UGA is a great team. Bama is capable of playing like one as well. Just need to get through Arky and AU without anymore injuries and at least one W, and we'll see if the Tide can challenge them or not.
I think Bama's D matches up very well with what UGA likes to do with Bennett. Just need to either protect or give Bryce some options to negate the pressures and need him to play mistake free football. If so, we could have a closer game than most think.
I agree with this. BAMA could easily beat us this year. I don't think we have any advantage until we knock them off. I do like out chances with our D. I just hope both teams are healthy. I know we have been ravaged with injuries this year.
I think we are due to be down in the 3rd and Daniels, the backup QB, comes in and leads us to victory. However, I am well aware of the curse of being a sports fan in the state of GA. Maybe the Braves broke the curse.....
Posted on 11/14/21 at 12:35 pm to gothamdawg
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So what are the remaining "real" offenses? Bama? OSU (if we get past Bama)? Who has the best shot of overcoming the Dawgs defense?
Honest answer - depends on how Georgia schemes. That first quarter against UT was awful - why do DCs insist on this rush three, drop eight nonsense ? You could see Georgia LBs and DBs just guarding grass, while UT threw the ball around.
If Georgia brings one LB on pressure, every play ? Nobody in college football. Because we've never seen three defensive linemen that can eat up five blockers. Expecting them to create pressure is just too much.
FWIW - Georgia played soft like that against Kentucky most of the game. Whenever Georgia brought pressure, they blew up plays. So why not do that every damn down ?
Posted on 11/14/21 at 12:35 pm to djsdawg
I know math is hard for some people but the game was over late in the third when UT turned it over on downs at the 35 or so not at halftime
Posted on 11/14/21 at 12:41 pm to Rip Torn
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know math is hard for some people but the game was over late in the third when UT turned it over on downs at the 35 or so not at halftime
Show me the math
Posted on 11/14/21 at 12:54 pm to djsdawg
27-10, UT turns it over on downs at the 35 or so of UGA. This was after turning it over on downs at the UGA 18 down 24-10 earlier in the third quarter. Field goals or a touchdown on either of those possessions makes it a much closer game, hence game not over.
Posted on 11/14/21 at 12:55 pm to Rip Torn
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27-10
Vols were lucky to get 17 in 6o minutes.
17 > 27
Posted on 11/14/21 at 12:59 pm to ScoggDog
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FWIW - Georgia played soft like that against Kentucky most of the game. Whenever Georgia brought pressure, they blew up plays. So why not do that every damn down ?
Cause it becomes too predictable?
I agree in general though. When there's little pressure on decent QBs, they can make milk toast out of you.
Posted on 11/14/21 at 1:02 pm to djsdawg
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Uga made hooker off, and that Rb wasn’t gonna do shite vs our D but nice spin after uga proved you wrong yet again.
Love people saying, "Ohhh you didn't beat us that bad, our best players were just off"
Uhhhh, you think maybe playing the #1 Defense in the nation had something to do with those players being, "off"?
Cause, you know... The point of football is to make sure the opposing players don't play anywhere close to their best game.
Posted on 11/14/21 at 1:04 pm to gothamdawg
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Cause it becomes too predictable? I agree in general though. When there's little pressure on decent QBs, they can make milk toast out of you.
That's why I don't get it - and honestly, I know I hammer this to death. But I'm pretty sure I'm right.
3-4 gives you four LBs, from eight different angles, to rush. The main reason to use it. So why - rhetorical question - do these DCs then walk up one, and sometimes two, LBs to put their hand in the dirt on the line ?
We had that position back in the day !!! Called a DE !!! Bigger than an LB, smaller than a DT.
If you want to run 3-4 ... you can rush one LB every play. Doesn't have to be the same LB - or in the same gap. Or, you can only rush three and watch the QB slice and dice. I guess it makes these coaches feel better that they didn't get "burned".
Posted on 11/14/21 at 1:05 pm to Rip Torn
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Field goals or a touchdown on either of those possessions makes it a much closer game, hence game not over.
Hence Georgia would have continued slinging it around and not using RB#5 Daijun Edwards to run it up the middle on every play in the 4th.
Posted on 11/14/21 at 1:11 pm to gothamdawg
I know there has been a lot of talk about how many TDs and points/game Georgia has given up this year. In reality, three TDs have been scored when it mattered. The first TD by Kentucky, the TD by Auburn and the first TD yesterday. There have been some FGs kicked when it mattered. The last TD yesterday by Tenn was with less than 4 minutes and there were some non-starters in the game for Georgia, fwiw.
How does any of this translate in a game against Alabama? Time will only tell. I do believe that Kirby and Lanning are two of the brighter minds at scheming defense.
How does any of this translate in a game against Alabama? Time will only tell. I do believe that Kirby and Lanning are two of the brighter minds at scheming defense.
Posted on 11/14/21 at 1:12 pm to ScoggDog
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3-4 gives you four LBs, from eight different angles, to rush. The main reason to use it. So why - rhetorical question - do these DCs then walk up one, and sometimes two, LBs to put their hand in the dirt on the line ?
If the offense is running the ball, then not stepping up the 4th or 5th guy is going to gut you.
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We had that position back in the day !!! Called a DE !!! Bigger than an LB, smaller than a DT.
Yeah but then that guy can't drop back in coverage without a substitution, unless he's a truly special player. It's hard enough getting linebackers that can do it, much less a lineman.
Posted on 11/14/21 at 1:22 pm to deeprig9
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Yeah but then that guy can't drop back in coverage without a substitution, unless he's a truly special player. It's hard enough getting linebackers that can do it, much less a lineman.
Every league allows the defense time to substitute. And this is the problem I have with this slavish loyalty to the 3-4.
The offense will have five linemen, by definition, every damn play. That is by rule. How many linemen do you need to stop them ? Three does not seem to be enough, unless you are Georgia.
If they bring out five WRs - you can drop all eleven - it does not matter. You will not cover them.
Some bastard is going to trot out a base nickel coverage - two DTs, two DEs. That will shut down a lot of the runs you see now. Add LBs according to their backs and TEs, and DB for every WR.
Against an empty backfield, one LB and six DBs, single deep, and the LB delay blitzes every time. That will win - and the Air Raid goes to the dust-bin of football history.
Stop playing zone. It has to be man to man, with help up top. I can't tell you how many times, last night, I watched Vandy try to drop DB's into a short zone. If you really, really knew where Kentucky was going to throw the ball ... there's so many better ways to stop that route than having a DB cover grass.
Posted on 11/14/21 at 1:32 pm to ScoggDog
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Every league allows the defense time to substitute
Only if the O subs
Posted on 11/14/21 at 1:33 pm to bunkerhill
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I know there has been a lot of talk about how many TDs and points/game Georgia has given up this year. In reality, three TDs have been scored when it mattered. The first TD by Kentucky, the TD by Auburn and the first TD yesterday. There have been some FGs kicked when it mattered. The last TD yesterday by Tenn was with less than 4 minutes and there were some non-starters in the game for Georgia, fwiw.
Bottom line, after vols 1st TD to go ahead 7-0 they were outscored over the next 52 minutes 41-3 till the late one in trash time. Coulda, woulda, shoulda means nada...
Posted on 11/14/21 at 2:44 pm to ScoggDog
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Every league allows the defense time to substitute. And this is the problem I have with this slavish loyalty to the 3-4.
Only if the Offense subs.
When you have dual role guys, like a linebacker that can play DE and Linebacker, combined with a "Star" which is a safety who can play linebacker, and you can have those guys on the field at the same time, and mix up the scheme without substitutions, cover multiple formations the offense will show, it gives your defense a very distinct advantage. Todd Grantham gets alot of shite but go watch his defense with 2012 UGA. The opposing QB doesn't know whether to shite or shine his shoes because everything is so disguised and there's not much to make from a pre-snap read. You don't know if that safety is a safety or if he's a linebacker, you don't know if that DE is coming or if he's going to drop back in coverage and the corner is actually going to blitz your blind side. And on and on.
Posted on 11/14/21 at 2:51 pm to deeprig9
10-0
Nuff said
Undefeated in SEC
Bye
Nuff said
Undefeated in SEC
Bye
Posted on 11/14/21 at 2:59 pm to dallasga6
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outscored over the next 52 minutes 41-3
Wow
Posted on 11/14/21 at 3:04 pm to ScoggDog
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Stop playing zone. It has to be man to man, with help up top.
Cover 1 has it's place and all defenses move in or out of it at some point in a game depending on a variety of factors. QB's are trained to spot Man to Man very quickly and options within plays are designed to destroy it. Many defenses play UGA this way, stuff the run and/or rush passer by overloading the protection, and make Stetson beat you in man coverage. Hasn't worked out for anyone this year, yet. Maybe Charleston Southern or Georgia Tech will expose us with something.
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