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re: Damn! There goes Ole Miss' Edge!
Posted on 10/14/11 at 9:35 am to OPR
Posted on 10/14/11 at 9:35 am to OPR
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OPR
Fair enough. You can certainly believe whatever you'd like. Either the person told you academics is incorrect or the person who told my friend it was failed drug tests is incorrect. One is certainly true and the other is not. I'll say this; why suspend one game for academics? What were the academic issues that led to it?
The person I've talked to about this (and the coaching situation) has coached at 3 SEC schools and still has contacts in coaching all over the country. Perhaps he heard bad info from one of those contacts on the drug deal. That would be surprising since he heard it from someone on your staff, but it's possible.
As for your coaching situation, I know for a fact those conversations has happened b/c my friend knows the agents that were talked to and he knows a coach at another school who was asked about joining the staff of one of your prospective candidates if he were to take the job.
ETA: I like Ole Miss immeasurable more that MSU. I want Ole Miss to get a good coach so you guys can finally beat that dickhead in Starkville and take away the one thing MSU fans can crow about.
This post was edited on 10/14/11 at 9:38 am
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Posted on 10/14/11 at 9:44 am to bamasgot13
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As for your coaching situation, I know for a fact those conversations has happened b/c my friend knows the agents that were talked to and he knows a coach at another school who was asked about joining the staff of one of your prospective candidates if he were to take the job.
I hope this is true, but I'm not holding my breath.
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The person I've talked to about this (and the coaching situation) has coached at 3 SEC schools and still has contacts in coaching all over the country. Perhaps he heard bad info from one of those contacts on the drug deal. That would be surprising since he heard it from someone on your staff, but it's possible.
It's more likely that he wants to help you out, and only said what he said because he wants to be a good guy and give you tips. The problem is that it's completely false.
The term academics covers more than just grades. It covers skipping class, skipping tests, skipping study halls, showing up late for class, being kicked out of class for bad behavior and lying about class/tests.
While bad grades would be an ongoing problem and carry with it stiffer penalties and/or more obvious issues, the above examples are single game offenses under the heading of "academic problems".
I guarantee you it is not a drug issue.
Posted on 10/14/11 at 9:53 am to OPR
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It's more likely that he wants to help you out, and only said what he said because he wants to be a good guy and give you tips.
Dude is a friend...not a "source". We have a friendship. He's not trying to do me any favors. It's casual conversation. I mentioned to him after I heard the news that I felt a lot better about the money I laid on Bama at -23.5. He mentioned in passing that is was drug tests. I asked if they were dating mary jane and he said yep.
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I guarantee you it is not a drug issue
I'm curious how you can do that.
Posted on 10/14/11 at 9:55 am to bamasgot13
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take away the one thing MSU fans can crow about.
My penis?
Posted on 10/14/11 at 10:01 am to NashvilleTN
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team rule broken: Bama will kill them if they play.
It's the protection program
If I was about to play Bama I'd walk into the AD's office with a fatty too.
This post was edited on 10/14/11 at 10:01 am
Posted on 10/14/11 at 10:04 am to bamasgot13
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He mentioned in passing that is was drug tests. I asked if they were dating mary jane and he said yep.
People offer information all the time so they can seem helpful, maybe he's just a helpful guy? And based on our past history with suspended players, it was a pretty safe bet. However, he's 100% incorrect. I'm not calling him or you a liar. Maybe the guy he talked to on OM's staff is a liar, or just guessed what happened and told your friend the wrong thing. Who knows.
Besides, Bolden has never been disciplined before (except through the buddy system when his buddy got in trouble) and has never had an issue with drugs in his entire time here. If it's MJ like your friend says, it makes no sense that he'd suddenly burn one the week of the Bama game. Especially when he knows that the entire team takes a piss test every Monday. It just doesn't fit.
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I'm curious how you can do that.
Of course you are.
Posted on 10/14/11 at 10:10 am to nycajun
And we now have Nutt's built in excuse when his arse gets raped this weekend.
Posted on 10/14/11 at 10:15 am to OPR
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Bolden has never been disciplined before
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it makes no sense that he'd suddenly burn one the week of the Bama game
But it does make sense that in 4 years on campus of never being disciplined - for anything - that he would choose now to miss a class, study hall, or some other academic BS?
Of the players suspended you had 2 Srs, 1 JR, and 1 SO. So after a combined 13 years on campus this is their first run in with academic issues?
Again, maybe you are right. Maybe I am wrong. We'll never know for sure b/c it is much easier to publicly announce "suspended for academic violations of team rules" than to put a guy completely under the bus and say "failed drug test".
Also - FWIW - most colleges do not suspend a player for their first failed drug test if it is pot. Just something to keep in mind. Perhaps not his first time.
Posted on 10/14/11 at 10:22 am to bamasgot13
Actually OM was graded one of the most lax on drug related discipline in the nation. You have to have failed multiple tests to miss a game.
Posted on 10/14/11 at 10:23 am to MaroonNation
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Actually OM was graded one of the most lax on drug related discipline in the nation. You have to have failed multiple tests to miss a game
And this is what I was talking about in my previous post...
Posted on 10/14/11 at 10:26 am to bamasgot13
Your friend is misinformed is all. This incident is of the academic variety.
Posted on 10/14/11 at 10:27 am to OPR
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has never had an issue with drugs in his entire time here
I've had 3 OM supporters tell me the exact opposite this morning.
Posted on 10/14/11 at 10:30 am to dedfella
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I've had 3 OM supporters tell me the exact opposite this morning
LOL, several OM posters have stated they saw him at the same place they went to pic Mary Jane up.
Posted on 10/14/11 at 10:31 am to dedfella
I'm pretty sure our drug policy is
1st 0
2nd 0
3rd 3 games
1st 0
2nd 0
3rd 3 games
Posted on 10/14/11 at 10:36 am to dedfella
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I've had 3 OM supporters tell me the exact opposite this morning.
Of course you did. Hey, did you hear that Bama is going to play in pink uniforms and wear their jocks on the outside this weekend? I swear I heard it from a completely reliable source.
Posted on 10/14/11 at 10:36 am to reb13
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In perhaps the most embarrassing part of any drug policy in the NCAA, not only does Ole Miss not suspend players for a second failed drug test, they justify it by no longer giving the student-athlete complementary game tickets for family and friends. Their atrocious polices don't get much tougher on the third violation. A third failed drug test only requires a player to miss three games.
Posted on 10/14/11 at 10:36 am to reb13
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I'm pretty sure our drug policy is
1st 0
2nd 0
3rd 3 games
That sounds just about right.
Posted on 10/14/11 at 10:37 am to MaroonNation
Do you jerk off to genespage?
Posted on 10/14/11 at 10:38 am to DMagic
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How long have you been jerking off to genespage?
fify
Posted on 10/14/11 at 10:39 am to OPR
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Of course you did
Knock yourself out here brah
You obvious;y have something substantial invested in it not being a drug issue.
Maybe you are a GA with the team or something. I just find it strange that 3 folks that I have worked with for a number of years (one of whom is providing me with 4 tickets to the game) have all said it is drug related
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