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re: Columnist and former OSU walk-on Barry Tramel with story on newsok.com - VERRRRY

Posted on 9/12/13 at 9:29 am to
Posted by piggilicious
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Posted on 9/12/13 at 9:29 am to
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Actions speak louder than words


yes, they do and that's why a lot of folks think jff is an entitled pos.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 9/12/13 at 9:29 am to
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Actions speak louder than words




yes, they do and that's why a lot of folks think jff is an entitled pos.


boom
Posted by nerd guy
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Posted on 9/12/13 at 9:31 am to
I feel like i'm reading texags.
Posted by MMB5DAP
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 9/12/13 at 9:36 am to
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yes, they do and that's why a lot of folks think jff is an entitled pos.


Man I wish I was an entitled pos so I could slay tail every night, hang out with Lebron, and go to the biggest sporting events of the year.
Posted by tigermoney
Member since Oct 2008
366 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 9:39 am to
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Actions speak louder than words. It doesn't matter if Miles always made it a point of saying "education is very important" in team meetings. He knew the things that were going on in the program and he didn't take action. It's kind of like allowing a team vote to determine the fate of a fellow player. You can always deflect the ridicule from the outside by saying "the team decided they wanted him to stay," but everyone knows it was only put to a team vote so Les would have an excuse for keeping a criminal on the team.


not sure if serious
Posted by Tammany Tom
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Posted on 9/12/13 at 9:41 am to
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Actions speak louder than words. It doesn't matter if Sumlin always made it a point of saying "education is very important" in team meetings. He knew the things that were going on in the program and he didn't take action. It's kind of like allowing a one half suspension of a star QB against a patsy. You can always deflect the ridicule from the outside by saying "there is no way to trace the cash that Johnny got for his autographs," but everyone knows it was only said to have an excuse for keeping an ineligible player on the team.

Posted by cokebottleag
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 9/12/13 at 9:42 am to
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Actions speak louder than words. It doesn't matter if Miles always made it a point of saying "education is very important" in team meetings. He knew the things that were going on in the program and he didn't take action. It's kind of like allowing a team vote to determine the fate of a fellow player. You can always deflect the ridicule from the outside by saying "the team decided they wanted him to stay," but everyone knows it was only put to a team vote so Les would have an excuse for keeping a criminal on the team.


Stop. By now, its pretty obvious no one has a leg to stand on here. I know for a fact some former A&M players got VERY special treatment in class.
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 9/12/13 at 9:42 am to
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jff is an entitled pos.
Posted by MMB5DAP
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 9/12/13 at 9:43 am to
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Actions speak louder than words. It doesn't matter if Sumlin always made it a point of saying "education is very important" in team meetings. He knew the things that were going on in the program and he didn't take action. It's kind of like allowing a one half suspension of a star QB against a patsy. You can always deflect the ridicule from the outside by saying "there is no way to trace the cash that Johnny got for his autographs," but everyone knows it was only said to have an excuse for keeping an ineligible player on the team.


Agree with that comparison minus the first half suspension for Manziel. That was done by the NCAA and A&M, Sumlin had little to no input on that punishment. And I don't see a reason for any coach to suspend a player beyond what the NCAA deems reasonable.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 9/12/13 at 9:45 am to
Not StopRobot so this is not legit.
Posted by jrodan
Houston
Member since Aug 2013
336 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 9:46 am to
The difference here is that one is an immature 20 year old celebrity, the other is a the head coach of a major football program. You are an idiot if you don't think Miles should be held to a higher standard than JFF.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 9/12/13 at 9:48 am to
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I'm pretty sure the coach's don't administer the drug tests and that the results are most likely given to other university officials before the actual coach. You can only explain away so many failures to the higher ups before you have to take some sort of action.


I don't think the coaches administer drug tests either, but I think we know who has power at respective universities.

The NCAA doesn't even have a real recreational drug policy in place. In the SEC, some schools dismiss a player after four failed tests (LSU included) and others dismiss them after three. There is no universal rule and that leaves room for bending your own rules because no one is really enforcing anything.
Posted by Grit-Eating Shin
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Member since May 2013
8432 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 9:54 am to
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He knew the things that were going on in the program and he didn't take action
Perhaps you should go write for SI because they need a shiteton of help in proving this. Or is that just you talking out of your arse?

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It's kind of like allowing a team vote to determine the fate of a fellow player.
It's actually nothing like this...nothing at all. What a pathetic, half-assed attempt at a reacharound.

Aggie fans are the last ones that should be running their mouths regarding improprieties.

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so Les would have an excuse for keeping a criminal on the team
Whereas Sumlin made no apologies for keeping his QB criminal on the team. You mad because JH33 trucked your sorry team last year and will do it again...we understand.
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37298 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 10:01 am to
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The difference here is that one is an immature 20 year old celebrity, the other is a the head coach of a major football program. You are an idiot if you don't think Miles should be held to a higher standard than JFF.


of course, but you used a saying that perfectly fits your star qb's situation, too. and i'm so over that immature excuse- his father is too, seems more like a family trait than general immaturity to me.
Posted by Beachfinder
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since Aug 2012
173 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 10:01 am to
Do I think Les Miles has some problems with his coaching abilities? Yes....

Do I think Les Miles would condone or blind eye illegal or immoral things going on in his program? No, I don't...

Until it is PROVEN to me that Les Miles doesn't TRY his best to adhere to the rules, I'll believe he is simply a man with quirky coaching flaws who is a good man and great coach.

Sometimes his quirkyness works, sometimes it doesn't, but that doesn't make him any less a great coach... Records don't lie, only disgruntled people or those seeking a spotlight...

As a Bama fan through and through, I've come to respect Miles as a coach and while I wouldn't want him in charge of a program I pulled for, that doesn't diminish the fact that he's a proven winner and motivator. I've interviewed players who have played for him and they LOVE the guy and would have walked through fire for him...

That's a coach that deserves respect, that and his undeniable record of success.
Posted by geauxcoco
Greenville, SC
Member since Apr 2007
11023 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 10:02 am to
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so Les would have an excuse for keeping a criminal on the team


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Whereas Sumlin made no apologies for keeping his QB criminal on the team. You mad because JH33 trucked your sorry team last year and will do it again...we understand.

Posted by LSUdm21
Member since Nov 2008
17486 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 10:07 am to
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The difference here is that one is an immature 20 year old celebrity, the other is a the head coach of a major football program. You are an idiot if you don't think Miles should be held to a higher standard than JFF.


Why did Sumlin keep your QB who also has a criminal record then?
Posted by Dr. 3
Member since Mar 2005
11353 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 10:12 am to
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He only kicked off Honey Badger so he could keep his job.

Wow that is stupid.

They gave him an ultimatum on Perriloux as well?
Posted by XbengalTiger
212 miles from Tiger Stadium
Member since Oct 2003
5459 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 10:49 am to
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Once you fail 3-5 drug tests, you can't explain it away with a team vote. He only kicked off Honey Badger so he could keep his job. It wasn't a righteous choice.
Drug testing and policy are a University Program not a coaches program. Every schools policy is on their website. Every school has different rules in place for a 1st fail, 2nd fail, 3rd fail and some go out to a 5th fail. Also, some bcs schools are currently implementing counselling programs in lieu of suspension. Not every policy is the same but the coaches do not make the policy.
Posted by Marines4Auburn
Auburn Alum in South Florida
Member since Sep 2009
14926 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 10:52 am to
I honestly and truthfully believe Les Miles cares about these kids and wouldn't condone drug use and skipping class.
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