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Posted on 5/15/15 at 12:37 pm to
Posted by JustGetItRight
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Posted on 5/15/15 at 12:37 pm to
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A very interesting thread no doubt. BB clearly understood the implications of the "food" reference and I actually like him a bit more because of it.



This.

There's no doubt he knew exactly what he was doing when he said it. I thought it was very well played on his part....
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Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
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Posted on 5/15/15 at 12:41 pm to
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Why? Just because a couple of rantards try to ruin a thread doesn't mean others can't actually discuss it.




Bert did it to himself with that quote. Still, as an Arky fan, I would be happy that's turning into the only thing opposing fans have to make fun on him for. Arky is on an upward trajectory, and the other quotes here seem like he's doing it right.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 5/15/15 at 1:57 pm to
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Coach Richt had this problem with Shaq Wiggins, Tray Matthews and Josh Harvey-Clemons.
AU is planning on "Trigga Tray" to contribute big time this season.
Posted by jatebe
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Posted on 5/15/15 at 2:05 pm to
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little groups of naysayers.
One of Bama's naysayers has moved on to Tennessee.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 5/15/15 at 2:15 pm to
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because breaking bread, it's about the food." Bielema reminds us. "Food makes the world go round. Food cures all. Food is the best thing in life. Food is a cure-all. If this team is having chemistry problems ... we eat. That's what I want to instill while I'm here. The ability to chow down when things get tough."

Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 5/15/15 at 2:18 pm to
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Bielema identified a group of seniors "who felt they were bigger than the program," showing up late to meetings and "setting bad examples" for younger teammates with their conduct. Weeks before the 2009 season, Bielema indefinitely suspended senior safeties Aubrey Pleasant and Shane Carter, who had 34 combined starts. Both players soon were kicked off the team.

Bielema didn't inform his assistants of his decision, instead calling a team meeting to relay the news.


I gotta say, I like this.

yup

Bielema has shown the same mindset at Arkansas
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 5/15/15 at 2:19 pm to
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A very interesting thread no doubt. BB clearly understood the implications of the "food" reference and I actually like him a bit more because of it.


This.

There's no doubt he knew exactly what he was doing when he said it. I thought it was very well played on his part....

he basically just stole the show
Posted by BearBait09
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 5/15/15 at 2:23 pm to
The other way to interpret this is coaches wanting to feel justified dumping players who disagree with them.

Look at the stuff coming out about Beckman, the Illinois coach, if any of that crap is true he is garbage. Coaches wield an incredible amount of power over their players, and Coaches are also crazy people. Personally I don't think I headcoach can always be trusted to recognize the difference of a player who disagrees with decisions being made by the coach, and a player who is damaging team chemistry.

"buying into the team concept" is too often coach speak for "do whatever I say"
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 2:59 pm to
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"buying into the team concept" is too often coach speak for "do whatever I say"


Yeah, generally. Look, I'm all for rugged individualism, democracy, crazy sex antics all over town, etc. But it's the coach's job to tell his players what to do and how to do it. Yes, a smart coach at least listens to his smarter players, gets feedback and input. But, in the end, it's all about "do whatever I say." If you can't sublimate your ego and just do what the coach says, you're not going to get very far in football. I was never a great player for my high school team, but I occasionally got into games because when my coach said 'Jump', I didn't bother asking 'How high?' I just jumped. He appreciated that.
Posted by BearBait09
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 5/15/15 at 3:04 pm to
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but I occasionally got into games because when my coach said 'Jump', I didn't bother asking 'How high?' I just jumped. He appreciated that.


The problem is when the coach tells you to 'jump' when your ACL is torn.
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 5/15/15 at 3:09 pm to
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The problem is when the coach tells you to 'jump' when your ACL is torn.


I think the precondition of the coach not actively trying to cause you permanent damage was a given. No doubt there are terrible coaches who care nothing about their players. But it's still not unreasonable to assume that the coach's word is law as far as football goes if the coach isn't actively trying to ruin your life. There are multiple reasons people make an analogy between sports and war, after all.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 5/15/15 at 3:10 pm to
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I'm not sure anything could ever be worse than the 2012 Kentucky locker room.


I can't find the article, but Dupree said as much before the season started. And when Avery Williamson came out and said had Stoops been there when he came out of HS he wouldn't have been "good enough" for UK, that said quite a bit too.

I worked with a guy who played under Joker as he always said Joker couldn't get past being a player's friend long enough to be a successful HC. That it made him a great coordinator or position coach to be able to play the "good cop" but it would likely always frick him over when he tried to put his foot down as an HC.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/15/15 at 3:29 pm to
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Coaches cautious of the enemy within

quote:

Food cures all. Food is the best thing in life. Food is a cure-all. If this team is having chemistry problems ... we eat.




uhhhh...
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30208 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 4:20 pm to
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Bielema has shown the same mindset at Arkansas

Coaches have their won ways of dealing with the many attitudes and personalities of over 85 young, testosterone filled males..........It appears BB is pretty strict. I get the impression he doesn't put up with much shite from his players.
Posted by greenbastard
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Posted on 5/15/15 at 4:36 pm to
I'm starting to like Bert. The dude writes his own jokes.
Posted by SamuelClemens
Earth
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 5/15/15 at 7:01 pm to
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Coaches have their won ways of dealing with the many attitudes and personalities of over 85 young, testosterone filled males..........It appears BB is pretty strict. I get the impression he doesn't put up with much shite from his players.


I bet OM and aTm have some negative nancy groups of players
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 5/18/15 at 9:50 am to
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The other way to interpret this is coaches wanting to feel justified dumping players who disagree with them.

Look at the stuff coming out about Beckman, the Illinois coach, if any of that crap is true he is garbage. Coaches wield an incredible amount of power over their players, and Coaches are also crazy people. Personally I don't think I headcoach can always be trusted to recognize the difference of a player who disagrees with decisions being made by the coach, and a player who is damaging team chemistry.

"buying into the team concept" is too often coach speak for "do whatever I say"



Well .... yeah. I mean from where do you believe the term "get with the program" originated?

"Football program," duh. ;)

But seriously. Yes, a coach needs his players to work within the system if the chemistry is going to gel. If a coach cannot accomplish that then he'll be a short-lived head coach.
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 5/18/15 at 11:59 am to
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Bert is fat.

As surely as the sun rises in the east and sets in the west, Bert was, is and will be...finna eat.
Posted by goat
Louisiana
Member since May 2004
4172 posts
Posted on 5/18/15 at 1:04 pm to
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Coaches have their won ways of dealing with the many attitudes and personalities of over 85 young, testosterone filled males..........It appears BB is pretty strict. I get the impression he doesn't put up with much shite from his players.


And to add - all think they will be first round picks in the NFL draft. Doesn't sound like he does.

And I am starting to like him as well. And by calling him fat, I get the sense that BB does not take that as an insult.
Posted by Nguyening
SEMO
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 5/18/15 at 1:23 pm to
This happened mid season last year to A&M
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