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re: Coach Saban vs Coach Bear Bryant.
Posted on 8/15/16 at 3:32 pm to AUTiger45
Posted on 8/15/16 at 3:32 pm to AUTiger45
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if Bama had hired Tuberville when Stallings left he would have made a run similar to Saban's.
Yes, Tommy "The Bear" Tuberville was the greatest coach in college football history. He was so good that his teams never even held a practice. In fact, he intentionally lost some games because he had a good heart and wanted fans of other teams to feel some joy.
Tommy "The Beast" Tuberville would have probably won 20 consecutive titles at Alabama but Bama was too stupid not to see his genius. I can still recall many of his legendary nicknames...
Tommy "The Slayer" Tuberville
Tommy "The Lion" Tuberville
Tommy "The I Kill You" Tuberville
Tommy "The arse Kickin" Tuberville
Tommy "The Great One" Tuberville
And those are just the few I can remember off the fly. No coach in history will ever measure up to him. He set the standard, no doubt about it.
Posted on 8/15/16 at 4:49 pm to DaronTexas
Bryant. Saban's success hinges on the need for 5*s. On an even field Saban would lose to half the coaches in the nation.
Posted on 8/15/16 at 8:43 pm to Decker
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I give you a compliment and you insult me.
Saying I have an "angle" is a compliment now is it?
Posted on 8/15/16 at 8:58 pm to beatbammer
The "very good answer" part was the compliment. The "angle" part was making light of the fact that most Alabama/Auburn fans don't give good answers like you gave when talking about the other team, so I jokingly acted suspicious.
Posted on 8/15/16 at 9:22 pm to BHMKyle
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BHMKyle
Excellent summation. Add to the fact that, of all the top 5 programs in the SEC during Saban's tenure, Bama has had to play most of them. Bryant-coached Tide teams didn't have to deal with an abundance of in-conference powerhouses on their regular season slate, nor did they have to play in an SEC championship game.
Case in point: during Bama's lengthy unbeaten streak from the 1978 opener through the upset loss to MSU in late 1980, there were only three Conference teams besides Bama who finished ranked in the AP top 20 - and Bama faced only one, #16 AU in '79.
Under Saban, Bama has faced 10 SEC teams that finished in the top 20 in the last three seasons.
Posted on 8/15/16 at 9:27 pm to DaronTexas
To play one season, with 1 year to recruit and prepare a staff, I'd probably take Saban.
Actually, even for one game, I'd probably take Saban. Coach Bryant delegated a lot more authority to assistants than Saban does. Bryant watched practice from his tower. Saban is on the field teaching.
Actually, even for one game, I'd probably take Saban. Coach Bryant delegated a lot more authority to assistants than Saban does. Bryant watched practice from his tower. Saban is on the field teaching.
Posted on 8/15/16 at 9:50 pm to FearlessFreep
nor did they have to play in an SEC championship game.
Correct and you only had to play 6 conference games a year and you could also tie for championships.Much easier ti win a conference title back then.
Correct and you only had to play 6 conference games a year and you could also tie for championships.Much easier ti win a conference title back then.
Posted on 8/15/16 at 9:53 pm to DaronTexas
If Saban had coached during the Bryant era, with the same format of determining the National Champion....
Saban would have 1, maybe 2 NC's.
2009 and 2012.
In the old AP Poll days LSU gets 2011 and Clemson beats Oklahoma to finish undefeated and #1 in 2015.
Of course, Sabans LSU team didn't win the AP
Saban would have 1, maybe 2 NC's.
2009 and 2012.
In the old AP Poll days LSU gets 2011 and Clemson beats Oklahoma to finish undefeated and #1 in 2015.
Of course, Sabans LSU team didn't win the AP
Posted on 8/15/16 at 10:32 pm to cmayes56
You're assuming that the bowl matchups would have been the same, which under the ild system wasn't the case.
Plus you forget that Saban's 2008 and 2014 teams finished the regular season ranked #1. Saban could have picked weaker Sugar Bowl opponents those years, just as Bryant did in '61 and '79.
Plus you forget that Saban's 2008 and 2014 teams finished the regular season ranked #1. Saban could have picked weaker Sugar Bowl opponents those years, just as Bryant did in '61 and '79.
Posted on 8/15/16 at 10:51 pm to FearlessFreep
As much as I love Bryant I've got to give it to Saban. Saban beats Bryant in 3 key areas: Recruiting, details, and change. Saban is willing to change to win. Bryant wasn't as amenable to change. He out recruited the competition and and out-motivated his players . Bryant molded great men physically and morally. Saban molds great men physically, morally and intellectually.
Saban got better with age. Bryant didn't.
Saban got better with age. Bryant didn't.
This post was edited on 8/15/16 at 10:53 pm
Posted on 8/15/16 at 10:54 pm to 12thFairway
Listen to Bryant's players talk about him. Do you hear anyone blubbering on about Saban?
Saban is an all time coach. Bear Bryant was a leader of Men.
Saban is an all time coach. Bear Bryant was a leader of Men.
Posted on 8/15/16 at 11:01 pm to AUTiger45
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if Bama had hired Tuberville when Stallings left he would have made a run similar to Saban's
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