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re: Coach O really improved the offense

Posted on 10/24/16 at 11:09 pm to
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 10/24/16 at 11:09 pm to
We're talking about results. I don't care how you get there. You're getting to the same point just in a different way.

So no it's not relevant.
This post was edited on 10/24/16 at 11:10 pm
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 10/24/16 at 11:10 pm to
quote:

Did I say you made one? I thought you had confidence in your "new" offense and saw an opportunity to shut you up for the rest of the season.


From all my posts I make on the SEC rant

I do have confidence in the new offense. I also have confidence in Alabama.

Furthermore, I'm not pathetic enough to see this account as valuable or something to bet on. I'm here for fun.

Ban bet that Auburn beats Bama?
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 10/24/16 at 11:12 pm to
quote:

We're talking about results. I don't care how you get there. You're getting to the same point just in a different way.

So no it's not relevant.


So you're just retarded and illogical, got it.

The changes aren't relevant to the topic about offensive changes because you say so

I guess following your own topic is difficult. I literally, literally, stayed on topic. Pathetic
This post was edited on 10/24/16 at 11:13 pm
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 10/24/16 at 11:13 pm to
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Furthermore, I'm not pathetic enough to see this account as valuable

Obviously you do or you would take the bet.

quote:

I'm here for fun.

Ok? Is betting not fun?

quote:

Ban bet that Auburn beats Bama?


I don't think Auburn beats Bama.
Posted by Weagle25
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 10/24/16 at 11:14 pm to
The thread was all about results and you brought up scheme.

Sorry you have trouble identifying topics
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 10/24/16 at 11:16 pm to
quote:

The thread was all about results and you brought up scheme.



So then something has changed? Got it.

Was that too complicated for you to comprehend?

Goodnight princess.
This post was edited on 10/24/16 at 11:17 pm
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 10/24/16 at 11:18 pm to
quote:

So then something has changed? Got it.


You changed your scheme to achieve the same results. Whoopty doo!

I never claimed you didn't change your scheme.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 10/24/16 at 11:18 pm to
Yeah, they really haven't played anybody with a D since the coaching change. I am looking forward in seeing what that O looks like against bama. That's probably a bad team to judge the LSU O off of, but it's all we have as of now.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127397 posts
Posted on 10/24/16 at 11:24 pm to
Does the OP realize that this type of thread was already started?
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 10/24/16 at 11:26 pm to
I'm kinda surprised by this thread. I'd expect an Auburn fan to prop LSU up as much as possible.
Posted by Weagle25
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 10/24/16 at 11:27 pm to
quote:

Does the OP realize that this type of thread was already started?

Don't care. Didn't see it or participate in it.

Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
46186 posts
Posted on 10/24/16 at 11:28 pm to
quote:

I'm kinda surprised by this thread. I'd expect an Auburn fan to prop LSU up as much as possible.

What good would that do me? You'll be exposed down the stretch so all that would make me is wrong if I tried to prop you up
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
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Member since May 2011
14846 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 12:32 am to
quote:

I never claimed you didn't change your scheme.


Actually you claimed


quote:

This offense = Last years offense is the point. Nothing has changed.


quote:

We're talking about results. I don't care how you get there. You're getting to the same point just in a different way.


As relevant as cherry picking 3 games from last year to compare to the last 3 games of this season is, why not compare 2016 to 2016?
This year's LSU offense couldn't execute against good or bad teams with Miles as HC.

The offense produced (1st downs/points/yards):
18/371/27 vs FCS Jacksonville State
22/392/23 vs Mississippi State - LSU scored 20 points in the first 22 minutes of the game and 3 in the final 38 minutes as State mounted a comeback.

That's an average of 20 first downs, 381.5 yards and 25 points against a below average SEC defense and a freaking FCS team.

Post-Miles LSU has put up:

30/634/42 vs Mizzou
17/459/45 vs USM
20/515/38 vs OM

That's an average of 22 first downs, 536 yards and 42 points.

So, here is the most direct, relevant comparison of results available, since scheme doesn't matter to you. LSU vs bad/fcs defenses post Miles: +2 first downs, +155 yards, +17 points.

If you want to get in the weeds and look at comparisons of big plays or spreading the ball around or run/pass ratio in specific down and distance situations, I'd be happy to. However, your assertion that the results are the same post Miles is patently absurd.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:42 am to
quote:

Actually you claimed


Nice strawman

quote:

As relevant as cherry picking 3 games from last year to compare to the last 3 games of this season is, why not compare 2016 to 2016?

Read the whole argument before you jump in the middle of it bud.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59611 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 4:51 am to
No adjustments after halftime against state.

We were destroying them and les started playing the sportsmanship card with 10 min left in the 3rd
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 5:05 am to
Got to love it when Auburn is talking smack. Oh, 5-2.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30214 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 9:09 am to
quote:

I'm kinda surprised by this thread. I'd expect an Auburn fan to prop LSU up as much as possible.


It's kinda odd, but entertaining for a spectator.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95046 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 9:10 am to
quote:

Southern Miss 79th in scoring defense
Missouri 80th in scoring defense
Ole Miss 89th in scoring defense
We set three straight all time records in consecutive games. So unless you are saying in Les' entire tenure he never faced a defense worse than 89th you dont know frick all
This post was edited on 10/25/16 at 9:10 am
Posted by Blanky6715
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2014
4377 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 9:28 am to
quote:

Coach O hasn't improved shite


The offensive style may be similar, but the philosophy has changed definitely. Etling has gone over 200 passing yards more than once this season which happened rarely last year and I am not exactly sure that even happened while miles played him this year.

We aren't conservative anymore when we are leading the game. I can recall a time where less miles was taking a knee with 5 minutes left in the game. Coach O is keeping the petal to the metal all 4 quarters.

So although the style isn't very different, the way we finish games offensively has changed significantly and you can't argue against that.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
14846 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 10:55 am to
quote:

Nice strawman



Those were your words, not mine. I don't think you understand what a straw man is.
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