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re: Can we agree to agree on Bama's success now?
Posted on 2/6/13 at 8:57 pm to TheRoarRestoredInBR
Posted on 2/6/13 at 8:57 pm to TheRoarRestoredInBR
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left a Lambo for Miles to get started circa 2005-2007
THIS A HUGE FALSE MYTH. miles inherited a 4 loss team. saban lost less than 3 games , ONCE , at LSU.
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Posted on 2/6/13 at 9:05 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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THIS A HUGE FALSE MYTH. miles inherited a 4 loss team. saban lost less than 3 games , ONCE , at LSU.
Don't confuse 'em with the facts, Rick. Don't you know that Saban left LSU on top of the college football world?!
Posted on 2/6/13 at 9:07 pm to TheRoarRestoredInBR
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Dear God man, he won a national title in just four years at a lukewarm at best then LSU, left a Lambo for Miles to get started circa 2005-2007.
If Miles was left with a lambo Saban was left with a corvette. Go back and look at the roster Dinardo left. A sample:
Rohan
Toefield
Dominick Davis
Josh Reed
Peterman
Jarvis Green
Howard Green
Ryan Clark
Trev Faulk
Bradie James
Robert Royal
The talent was there and there was no direction. Much akin to Bama circa 2006.
You can keep sucking the dude off about his time at LSU if you want but in all honesty his time at LSU was comparable to Gene Chizik at AU.
Posted on 2/6/13 at 9:08 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Oh Gawd. You're stuck on the W-L column, I'm talking the LSU teams with talent already in place on roster, that backboned the no-less-than 3rd to best team in the land for those three years regardless of what the polls and media pundits said.
Because, most every ex-HC, sharp handicapper, elite wiseguy, BM, etc..in America has LSU right behind USC-Tex in 2005(yet with an inferior Offense to trade pts with them), Team 1-1A with Fla in 2006, and the very best team by far when healthy in 2007.
Because, most every ex-HC, sharp handicapper, elite wiseguy, BM, etc..in America has LSU right behind USC-Tex in 2005(yet with an inferior Offense to trade pts with them), Team 1-1A with Fla in 2006, and the very best team by far when healthy in 2007.
This post was edited on 2/6/13 at 9:25 pm
Posted on 2/6/13 at 9:13 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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I hope this was a joke. In 2011 Bama beat 3 teams with a winning record and only 2 ranked teams ( before bowl). Your 2011 schedule was a joke.
Yeah, he had to be kidding.
I'd bet it would take the 2011 and 2012 Bama schedules to play as many ranked opponents as LSU played in 2011 or 2007.
Posted on 2/6/13 at 9:18 pm to deaux68
Coach Saban does have it rolling
Posted on 2/6/13 at 9:22 pm to Adam Banks
I never asserted that Dinardo didn't leave talent, nor that Shula didn't either. You're too focused on the W-L column, not enough on his clout, his recruiting, and general direction of a now natty title program. As if to say, what he's done at Bama wasn't possible if at LSU. Sure, he was at the time, considered nearing but yet below SOS in hierarchy, on par with Fulmer, edging Richt & Tubs, with an incoming Meyer looming. But, he was the rising rockstar, with the higher ceiling..Simpletons could see that.
I have no reason to belittle or negatively spin what Saban did and didn't do at LSU, like some do. Nor can I argue with Miles results, even if at times being tortured by the process and means by which they arrive.
This comment is laughable, even without 20/20 hindsight. If your eyes couldn't decipher process, control, culture change, direction, clout, X&O, talent upgrade, national perception, program building, etc.. And all you saw was an Aubie Chiz or Cane Coker run..good Gawd!
I have no reason to belittle or negatively spin what Saban did and didn't do at LSU, like some do. Nor can I argue with Miles results, even if at times being tortured by the process and means by which they arrive.
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his time at LSU if you want but in all honesty his time at LSU was comparable to Gene Chizik at AU.
This comment is laughable, even without 20/20 hindsight. If your eyes couldn't decipher process, control, culture change, direction, clout, X&O, talent upgrade, national perception, program building, etc.. And all you saw was an Aubie Chiz or Cane Coker run..good Gawd!
Posted on 2/6/13 at 9:30 pm to Thunder Tiger
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Don't you know that Saban left LSU on top of the college football world?!
Yo're so right, it's such a huge stretch of faith, when it was actually but one year removed from hoisting that crystal. And having left the roster of starters that backboned the 3rd best team in the country in 2005, the 2nd best team in the country(if not best) in 2006, and the absolute best in 2007.
Posted on 2/6/13 at 9:31 pm to deaux68
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Kirby Smart has alluded to it, but the trick is not only recruiting the kids that we recruit, but once they get here using every available resource to develop them into the best football player, student, and human they can be.
Does the average Bama fan here have a Saban shrine in their room?
Posted on 2/6/13 at 9:39 pm to deaux68
Why is it not enough that your team is good? Why do you all need other teams' fans to adore them, too?
Posted on 2/6/13 at 9:39 pm to UAFanFromNOLA
quote:Like all those holds and pass interferences and no calls on helmet shots to Murray right.
every judgement call in the SECCG wouldn't have gone against us.
Posted on 2/6/13 at 9:40 pm to tween the hedges
BAMA will beat LSU again this year and LSU fans will be on here bitching about the schedule again. 
Posted on 2/6/13 at 9:43 pm to TheRoarRestoredInBR
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I never asserted that Dinardo didn't leave talent, nor that Shula didn't either. You're too focused on the W-L column, not enough on his clout, his recruiting, and general direction of a now natty title program. As if to say, what he's done at Bama wasn't possible if at LSU. Sure, he was at the time, considered nearing but yet below SOS in hierarchy, on par with Fulmer, edging Richt & Tubs, with an incoming Meyer looming. But, he was the rising rockstar, with the higher ceiling..Simpletons could see that.
He was a "rising rockstar" because he had coached in the pros as a cooridinator and the press knew it wasnt if but when he made the jump. This was and would have continued to have been used against him in recruiting. Thats done now and also one of the reasons why he recruits better at Bama than he did at LSU.
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This comment is laughable, even without 20/20 hindsight. If your eyes couldn't decipher process, control, culture change, direction, clout, X&O, talent upgrade, national perception, program building, etc.. And all you saw was an Aubie Chiz or Cane Coker run..good Gawd!
I guess we watched a different 2004 season. I saw a team that took OT to beat a mediocre Oregon State team by a point, got its arse handed to them by UGA, got taken down to the wire by Troy and a shitty 4-7 Ole Miss team. The team had the same core as the 2005 team+Marcus Spears, Corey Webster, and Travis Daniels that had 1 regular season loss while surviving two hurricanes that ravaged the state. The 2004 team was woefully mismanaged and could never settle on a QB to start.
During Sabans time he got his arse handed to him by spurrier both years he coached against him, got destroyed by Bama 31-0 Va Tech 26-8 and auburn 31-7 in the same year, got taken to the woodshed by UGA, etc. but I guess thats all "part of the process".
He wasnt as good then as he is now. Its that simple. Hell he doesnt even run the same base defense now.
This post was edited on 2/6/13 at 9:45 pm
Posted on 2/6/13 at 9:44 pm to deaux68
Saban is a great recruiter, but let's be honest: Any FBS coach in the country could take over Alabama tomorrow and they'd sign a top-5 class for at least the next three years.
Alabama is a blueblood program. All they need is a LITTLE success and the recruits roll in. Outside of the 2008 class which I'm sure was tough to make into a great one, Saban has had kids kicking the door down to come play for him.
Alabama is a blueblood program. All they need is a LITTLE success and the recruits roll in. Outside of the 2008 class which I'm sure was tough to make into a great one, Saban has had kids kicking the door down to come play for him.
Posted on 2/6/13 at 9:45 pm to TheRoarRestoredInBR
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LSU with Saban narily missed on Adrian Peterson, Vince Young,etc.
"Narily"...??
Thats flippin' awesome.
I'm out.
Posted on 2/6/13 at 9:46 pm to TheRoarRestoredInBR
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Yo're so right, it's such a huge stretch of faith, when it was actually but one year removed from hoisting that crystal. And having left the roster of starters that backboned the 3rd best team in the country in 2005, the 2nd best team in the country(if not best) in 2006, and the absolute best in 2007.
Saban was trending down (4 losses his last year at LSU) with his OWN recruits. And you know Saban could've done better than Les afterwards... how?
Posted on 2/6/13 at 10:04 pm to DvlsAdvocat
nary..thus..narily..fo sho
Posted on 2/6/13 at 10:09 pm to deaux68
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Kirby Smart has alluded to it, but the trick is not only recruiting the kids that we recruit, but once they get here using every available resource to develop them into the best football player, student, and human they can be.
There is the gump arrogance. It was going so well until this.
Posted on 2/6/13 at 10:11 pm to TeLeFaWx
Yeah, never understood why fans feel the need to throw around athlete academic smack as if they give a shite.
If A&M won a national title I wouldnt care if every player on the team was a window-licking retard destined for a drug related death under a Wichita Falls overpass before their 30th birthday.
If A&M won a national title I wouldnt care if every player on the team was a window-licking retard destined for a drug related death under a Wichita Falls overpass before their 30th birthday.
This post was edited on 2/6/13 at 10:14 pm
Posted on 2/6/13 at 10:14 pm to deaux68
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