re: Can someone explain to me how Bama got a 1st down at the 5 yd line

Perfect defense by Bama. Jones is facing QB, ball hits his helmet. Perfect position and defense. 20-13

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is it a theory?

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Of course it is.

Don't get me wrong, it is obvious Bama gets calls in their favor. The SEC is gonna protect the golden boy. Build a strong history and you can get that same treatment.

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the DB didn't turn around to make a play on the ball until well after contact was made

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You are either blind or full of shite if you don't think the DB had turned around and was playing the ball. "well after contact was made" is completely false. You need watch the play again, it is linked in this thread.

The DB made a great play; the WR actually pushed (could/should have been offensive PI) off creating space, then the CB made a great play on the ball (hit him on the face-mask/helmet) and the safety cleaned it up.

It was how the refs let them play all night, there were many other instances where the LSU db did worse to an AL WR with not flag. One of which would have been a TD in regulation that would have won the game for Bama, instead Bama missed a FG on that possession.

Can someone post the clip of the DB holding the hand of White, basically preventing him from catching the ball with BOTH hands and scoring a TD in the endzone?

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If the refs had saw the LSU player try to pull R Raglands pants down, what would the penalty be and could it involve an ejection?

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Is there a penalty for indecent exposure? No one wants to see a big ole butt exposed on national TV.

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Whether the flag should have been thrown based on the way they game had been called up to that point is a different issue.

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As fricking inconsistant as the SEC officals are for each individual game - it appeared they tried to be consistant with their officiating in our game Sat night.

It's like the officiating crews have a "game plan" of their own before kickoff. Some times they call tick tacky shite like in the AU/OM game last week - then the next week they "let the boys play ball" in our game.

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Touch back on punt.

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and LSU got one downed on the 1 that should have been a touchback. Try again.

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PF on Alexander.

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He pushed a guy, got flagged. Happens ALL THE TIME.

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If the refs had saw the LSU player try to pull R Raglands pants down, what would the penalty be and could it involve an ejection?

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It's a personal foul....for sure. It doesn't rise to a disqualifying foul so I'd call the PF and let it go at that (with a warning and a watchful eye the rest of the game). If he pulled some shite later, I'd pull the trigger on him.

I just rewatched the game also, funny thing is if you watch the play live, and not the replay, the “late hit” happened before the whistle, and it wasn't even close. As for the yard line/down & distance being first and 10, do you guys not watch football ? This rule is 20 years old at least, if you pick up a first down and get a personal foul after the play then the down and distance is first and 10 after the mark-off, astounding that people watch football and don't know common rules.

A few more observations, the ball on the punt did touch the line, the LSU player who knocked it back with his right hand, had his left foot over the line and his right hand was past all other parts of his body, after I paused it his left foot immediately touched down 6 inches into the endzone, where his hands had been, this is the straight away view, not the view from 8 yards into the endzone where the side camera was placed, which of course gives an illusion, anyone with any sense knows a straight line can only show the truth in a camera angle as for as depth goes, the straight away angle when paused shows his hand beyond his foot, which immediately touches down 6 inches into the endzone. CRY METER ZERO.

As for real interference see Bama player on our last drive with a 35 yard catch, and possibly a TD, taken away by the raking of his hands by a badly beaten defender. Not to mention the P.I. in the endzone by LSU in the first half, or the 4 holds on LSU on the final play. CRY METER MINUS 10.

And to all those, including Danielson, who stated Jennings could have easily picked up the first down, that is simply false, he might have but I doubt Landon Collins misses the tackle.

As AJ threw the ball I paused the game, he threw it at the 35, I pushed play and immediately paused it again and Landon was on the 7 yard line, so I say he was on the 8 or 9 when the ball was passed and started retreating of course.

The 8 yard line to the 15 is 7 yards, the 35 to the 15 is 20 yards. If he could have met Landon at the 20 and made him miss ( Landon is a great open field tackler ) the he MIGHT HAVE MADE IT, one problem with that though is this, our defensive lineman, who was held, had started running sideways and lateral, so the QB couldn't have cut back to his right or the D-Lineman would have gotten him, and Landon knows to turn the runner back inside where his help is coming from, so I think AJ made the proper play, he picks that first down up by running 1 out of 20 times. CRY METER AGAINST AJ, 5% ( 1 out of 20 ) actually zero, he made the proper decision.