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re: Can A&M become the premier University in Texas?
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:21 pm to heartbreakTiger
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:21 pm to heartbreakTiger
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if a&m can become the premier university in Texas it will be a huge defeat for gay rights.
teh gheys love asstin, TX
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Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:21 pm to DWag215
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So when Aggies aren't doing the hiring, Aggie applicants are behind the 8-ball in securing a job?
Nope, just saying UT has a better alumni network.
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Why then are Aggies the second most sought after graduates in the country?
Look at the first clause next to A&M, "Proximity to key operations". Oil and gas for engineers as well as Houston and Dallas for finance and accounting. I know quite a few people that went through the PPA program, they were almost entirely courted by Aggies from the Big 4. Stop getting your jizz rags in a bunch, I know you guys still hate UT a lot but you can't deny how impressive their alumni network is.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:23 pm to BennyAndTheInkJets
Honestly, I'd rank alumni networks like this:
--Michigan
--A&M
--TX
--Ohio State
--Penn State
But that's just me
--Michigan
--A&M
--TX
--Ohio State
--Penn State
But that's just me
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:25 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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This isn't a zero sum game, though. Those same TV sets that'd be tuned into the horns are the ones that were tuned into A&M games this past fall. A&M as the state's SEC representative commands a lot more attention statewide than I think most realize. Adding texas would be classic cannibalization: subtraction by addition.
So you are confident that aTm has enough pull in the state to get the upcoming SEC Network into the basic cable/satellite packages in all of the major tv markets in Texas?
I just don't know for certain myself that they can. Houston I am confident in, DFW I am more skeptical of (although DFW does of quite a few Arky & LSU fans living there, so that could help), and Austin & San Antonio I am even more skeptical of. Now I'm not saying the can't, I just don't think anyone really knows for sure until it actually happens.
This post was edited on 4/2/13 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:28 pm to Bamatab
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So you are confident that aTm has enough pull in the state to get the upcoming SEC Network into the basic cable/satellite packages in all of the major tv markets in Texas?
Yes. Look at just last year at our pull in the austin market alone. San Antonio is also Military City, USA, and A&M's strong military heritage has always given a lot of ties from CStat to SAtown (SA's my old hometown--LOT of Aggies down there, believe me).
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:28 pm to Bamatab
A&M's highest TV ratings this past season were in AUSTIN.
That pretty much destroys your whole argument.
That pretty much destroys your whole argument.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:30 pm to Cooter Davenport
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Cooter Davenport
The state of Texas really is an enigma to a lot of outsiders ( "furriners," if you will
)Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:32 pm to BennyAndTheInkJets
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Look at the first clause next to A&M, "Proximity to key operations". Oil and gas for engineers as well as Houston and Dallas for finance and accounting.
UT enjoys those proximity advantages, and obviously offers the same degrees in those fields of industry.
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I know quite a few people that went through the PPA program, they were almost entirely courted by Aggies from the Big 4.
Doesn't this cut against your argument? TAMU grads permeate throughout the big 4, thus giving them the ability to hire other Ags--which only indicates the strength of the network.
Do you not know of UT grads who possess similar hiring power at those firms?
And I'm not discounting their network. There's just know justifiable basis upon which you can assert their network is demonstratively stronger than ours.
This post was edited on 4/2/13 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:33 pm to Fipitan
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People who give a single frick about this, outside of Texas...
Says the ole miss fan? Ole miss is good for: away game road trips, getting a job in Mississippi, subtle racism.
Mississippi is the worst state in the entire country, and that's saying something. You are on average the most obese, least educated/intelligent in the nation... But hey 50th place isn't that bad! Your university would kill (probably colored folk) to be a top 50 university.
It's ok if you aren't interested in thing that happen outside of your county, because you've lived there your whole life and never been on a plane, but some people do care about the world around them.
If you don't care don't post.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:37 pm to FormMorm
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subtle racism
"Subtle"?
J/k, j/k
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:38 pm to BennyAndTheInkJets
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Situations where the interviewer isn't talking about the spirit that can ne'er be told and shite, UT really is in another class, not just with A&M but all other universities.
Well isn't that cute...
If true, please explain why TAMU grads make more.
Pay Scale
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:38 pm to FormMorm
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Your university would kill (probably colored folk) to be a top 50 university.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:41 pm to BigD Ag
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If true, please explain why TAMU grads make more.
Probably has to do with the concentration of males at the schools. TAMU has 53% UT has 49%. That alone probably accounts for the difference.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:44 pm to therick711
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Probably has to do with the concentration of males at the schools. TAMU has 53%
Which makes for a TERRIBLE guy to guy ratio.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:47 pm to Projectpat
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Which makes for a TERRIBLE guy to guy ratio.
Should have been a business major, brah. Dimepieces out the friggin' wazoo over there on west campus
Usually 4 to 1 hot girl to guy ratios in my upper level courses. shite was ridiculous.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:49 pm to DWag215
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UT enjoys those proximity advantages, and obviously offer the same degrees
With this I'm assuming you're still referring the the WSJ article and why UT isn't in there. You really need to read the parameters of this study. This is from 2009 and the sample size is: "according to a Wall Street Journal survey of top corporate recruiters whose companies last year hired 43,000 new graduates." Even considering GE is included that's a fairly small sample size. Also, the author now works at Entrepreneur.com and usually focuses on women's lifestyle interests. Not implying it's a bad article or she did a bad job but you can't post and accept it as fact, parameters and sources are key.
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Doesn't this cut against your argument? TAMU grads permeate throughout the big 4, thus giving them the ability to hire other Ags--which only indicates the strength of the network.
It indicates the narrow focus in the business world. Yea, accounting is good but UT is very similar and UT places a good number of kids in fianance, management, etc..
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Do you not know of UT grads who possess similar hiring power at those firms?
Yes.
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And I'm not discounting their network. There's just know justifiable basis upon which you can assert their network is demonstratively stronger than ours.
I'm assuming you meant to say "no". The justifiable basis is that UT's network is much broader reaching than A&M's, which although is strong, is narrow and is usually focuses in the areas I pointed out.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:49 pm to John Maplethorpe
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Over half the students would have been guaranteed admittance by law.
For the benefit of those outside Texas, here's how the 10% law works.
As the law is written, if you graduate in the top 10% of your high school class (I don't know if it is only public schools or if private schools are also included), regardless of whether your class is in an exceptional district like Southlake Carroll or an inner-city Dallas school, you are guaranteed admission into any public university in the state (Texas, Texas A&M, UT Arlington, North Texas, Texas Tech, whatever). Not surprisingly students want to get into the school they think will bolster their future career chances, and in most cases those would be Texas and Texas A&M, the two flagship universities.
As the population expands and graduating class sizes expand (and new high schools are built), the number of automatic qualifiers increase. This is why Texas got the law changed to cap their limit at top 8%, because it didn't have the room for larger and larger classes (A&M tried to get it's enrollment capped but wasn't successful, so you have a 2% that can't get into Texas but can get into A&M).
This post was edited on 4/2/13 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:54 pm to BennyAndTheInkJets
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The justifiable basis is that UT's network is much broader reaching than A&M's, which although is strong, is narrow and is usually focuses in the areas I pointed out.
Far reaching in what regard?
I'd agree that if you go to UT, you'll have an easier time breaking though in a field pertinent to a liberal arts degree. But when it comes to engineering and business (two broad categories with a litany of subcategories), TAMU's "narrow" focus provides its students with ample opportunity. What point is there in designating the network's focus as "narrow" when it concentrates on industries that provide the most jobs in the state?
But tell me more about UT's far reaching network, and what exactly you mean by that?
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:55 pm to BigD Ag
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If true, please explain why TAMU grads make more.
Engineering, been over this already. Next question.
ETA: Which also goes along with therick's point. Not many girl engineers.
This post was edited on 4/2/13 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 4/2/13 at 3:56 pm to TbirdSpur2010
I hope you're right. If aTm can pull the basic packages in all of those markets, then you guys will earn the SEC a ton of money.
Don't get me wrong. I don't want those arogant, conference wrecking turds in our conference. But with that said, I think that the Big 4 would keep them in their place if they ever did join the SEC.
Don't get me wrong. I don't want those arogant, conference wrecking turds in our conference. But with that said, I think that the Big 4 would keep them in their place if they ever did join the SEC.
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