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re: Butch Speaks

Posted on 2/25/16 at 9:38 am to
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
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Posted on 2/25/16 at 9:38 am to
If you assume his father (a cop) would have given him advice, why would you think it likely that he told him it's a good idea to perjure himself? Not saying it's impossible, but highly improbable... Would be curious what the motivation would be? I will admit I haven't spent a ton of time following this embarrassing series of events, but given the comments very evasive nature and what I would consider a lack of motivation to lie here, I'm having a hard time buying that this wasn't said, even if it's lacking context.
Posted by Patton
Principality of Sealand
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 2/25/16 at 9:47 am to
What are you talking about? When did I say it's likely his father told him to lie under oath. All I'm saying is that just because his father is Law Enforcement does not mean the kid is any more honest than anyone else.

How can you talk about a lack of motivation when you said yourself that you haven't followed it? No one has any idea what the kids motivations are.
This post was edited on 2/25/16 at 9:51 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 2/25/16 at 9:48 am to
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All I'm saying is that just because his father is Law Enforcement does not mean the kid is any more honest than anyone else.



Yep - same as preacher's kids.
Posted by RightWingTiger
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2003
5294 posts
Posted on 2/25/16 at 11:01 am to
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No one has any idea what the kids motivations are.


True but unless the kids end game is a civil suit and a hope at a cash settlement (which would seem extremely unlikely given the lack of substantial evidence - like a third party that overheard this comment) what could possibly be this kids motivation to place himself in the middle of a shite show like this lawsuit?

Seems pretty likely that BJ is screwed!!
Posted by Open Dore Policy
The Commodore State
Member since Oct 2012
4472 posts
Posted on 2/25/16 at 11:12 am to
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"...my reputation will be affirmed."



Lots of things seem to get affirmed around UT.
Posted by bamawriter
Nashville, TN
Member since Apr 2009
3163 posts
Posted on 2/25/16 at 11:13 am to
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Lots of things seem to get affirmed around UT.


Consent is not one of those things.
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
10966 posts
Posted on 2/25/16 at 11:21 am to
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I guess you could take an angle that, on average, DIV-I head football coaches have far more integrity than first-responder law enforcement so let's tip all scales in that direction.

This is absurd. Why are you assuming what I take angles on? You gathered all this based off one sentence I posted?
You are correct, my apologies. I omitted a word in the original (inserted in italics above).

All that aside, I'm talking about what is or is not probable. And of course most any father would advise his son in a way that would serve his son's best interest!

What you seem to be implying is that a given, respected career law officer would think advising his son to violate a federal law is the best-interest path while a D-I head football coach is more probably to be above reproach.

Riiight.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 2/25/16 at 12:00 pm to
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So Butch is accusing the kid of perjury. Nice.


yea kids never lie..


Posted by Lokistale
Member since Aug 2013
1193 posts
Posted on 2/26/16 at 8:46 am to
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yea kids never lie..


There is a huge difference between issuing a statement claiming that you didn't do something and a legal federal affidavit.

Hell, Butch can claim that there are pink unicorns... but does he have the coconuts to issue a legal swore statement that he did not say those things...

This is the same coach that 'suspended' one of his football players for a few weeks for another rape allegation, but welcomed the player, Lane, back on the team and called him a ' success story'.
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