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re: Bret Bielema at LSU vs. Les Miles at Arkansas

Posted on 7/17/13 at 10:50 pm to
Posted by NOLAHornet4LIFE
Member since Dec 2011
297 posts
Posted on 7/17/13 at 10:50 pm to
Les would never be at a school like Arkansas. Its LSU then Saints job.
Posted by afreis
Birmingham
Member since Aug 2009
194 posts
Posted on 7/17/13 at 10:52 pm to
Amen!
Posted by whodidthat
Member since Aug 2011
5896 posts
Posted on 7/17/13 at 10:55 pm to
Miles as a recruiter is very underrated at times. Plus people are forgetting to consider what he did at Oklahoma State.

I think he could recruit better than Bret at Arkansas and way better than Petrino who was shite for a recruiter. One of the big reasons the hogs sucked last year was Petrino's recruiting in past seasons.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 7/17/13 at 10:56 pm to
Miles has better record since coming to LSU and in a much harder conf.
Posted by Froman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
36212 posts
Posted on 7/17/13 at 10:56 pm to
quote:

I think Les is better than given credit for


Of course he is, but the Internet is a funny place where things are usually one extreme or the other.
Posted by whodidthat
Member since Aug 2011
5896 posts
Posted on 7/17/13 at 10:59 pm to
quote:

Arkansas has an inherent disadvantage with regards to fanbase, location and recruiting.


Yeah and Oklahoma State was a great situation.

Since you're here why don't you tell us all about how the top Louisiana recruits aren't actually from Louisiana. Aren't you the same idiot that said over half of last years top ten were transfers from other states? Please drop some knowledge on us
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46506 posts
Posted on 7/17/13 at 11:04 pm to
Oklahoma State has a huge Texas pipeline and a billionaire single handidly funding their expansion.

Arkansas has Missouri and Wal-Mart scraps.
Posted by whodidthat
Member since Aug 2011
5896 posts
Posted on 7/17/13 at 11:09 pm to
quote:

Oklahoma State has a huge Texas pipeline


Not back then.

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huge Texas pipeline and a billionaire single handidly funding their expansion.



Who didn't invest as much until Miles took over and they started winning. He got the ball rolling for them. Even Gundy gives Miles credit for getting the program on the right path. He was only there for 4 years.

quote:

Arkansas has Missouri and Wal-Mart scraps.



Miles can recruit nationwide. They don't have to be 4 stars to be good. His eye for talent has been elite in a lot of ways.
This post was edited on 7/17/13 at 11:10 pm
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46506 posts
Posted on 7/17/13 at 11:10 pm to
Les Mile' 2003 team had 36 Texas players on scholarship

Sorry, I didn't read past that in your post
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46506 posts
Posted on 7/17/13 at 11:11 pm to
Ok, I lied. I kept reading...

quote:

Who didn't invest as much until Miles took over and they started winning.


Pickens' second biggest donation ever to the school was in 2000.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46506 posts
Posted on 7/17/13 at 11:12 pm to
You'd be wise to not debate Big XII history with an Aggie fan
Posted by whodidthat
Member since Aug 2011
5896 posts
Posted on 7/17/13 at 11:20 pm to
quote:

Pickens' second biggest donation ever to the school was in 2000.



Link? His second biggest was in 2003 and biggest in 2005. So you're wrong again.

quote:

The wheels were set in motion on the multi-faceted, multi-year stadium project when OSU graduate Boone Pickens made the single-largest gift in school history in 2003. His $70 million donation ($20 million of which was earmarked for stadium expansion) spurred the "Next Level Campaign", which generated more than $100 million in gifts and pledges and involved more than 2,500 individuals, making it the single-most successful campaign in OSU history. Pickens capped the fundraising effort in 2005 with his monumental gift of $165 million that will not only benefit Cowboy football, but will aid with the development of OSU's planned multi-million dollar athletic village. The gift is the largest ever received by a university athletic department.


LINK

For an aggie fan you sure are off on your big12 history. Not as bad your Louisiana recruiting history though.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46506 posts
Posted on 7/17/13 at 11:27 pm to
Who was the OSU coach in 2005?

It was the second biggest ever up to the point Miles left. He had two massive donations to OSU athletics before Miles ever arrived, one in 1997 and one in 2000.
Posted by whodidthat
Member since Aug 2011
5896 posts
Posted on 7/17/13 at 11:34 pm to
quote:

Who was the OSU coach in 2005?



I said Miles got the ball rolling. He left for LSU that year. His biggest investments came AFTER Miles took over at OSU

quote:

Pickens, who graduated from what was then Oklahoma A&M in 1951, wasn't a big benefactor until 2002


Dude you might as well give up
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:50 am to
Les boneheaded decisions and play calling at LSU with Bielema. Les would fail miserably at Arkansas without Louisiana talent and backing. John Chavis wouldn't be there to save his arse at Arkansas.

Quick question, at the end of 2004 what was the perceived gap between Arkansas and Oklahoma State nationally?
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36110 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 1:01 am to
It would be easier to succeed at LSU than Arkansas. I think Bielema is a pretty good coach so I think he'd do at least reasonably well at LSU. Would he win the SEC or a NC? That's a harder question to answer.

Posted by Hog Leg
NWA
Member since Dec 2010
970 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 7:39 am to
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Klarvin


With those Missouri and WMT scraps we whip your sorry arse 70% of the time since your redneck school was founded. My, my you guys are due for some comeuppance. Gonna enjoy watching your program revert to mediocrity.

A&M is a huge short. Enjoy this season, frickn hayseed.
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
34847 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 7:46 am to
Johnelle Smith at LSU >>>> Les Miles at Ar-kansas.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 7/18/13 at 8:12 am to
Miles would've brought Arky their first SEC championship by now.
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