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Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:33 pm to bbap
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So your point is muschamp will eventually blossom into a good coach after another school hires him away
Nah. I don't have a crystal ball.
I like the cotton reference though. Should'a done the gif though.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:34 pm to roadGator
Sorry on the phone. Too much work. Lazy.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:37 pm to roadGator
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Boom: 7-6, 11-2, 4-8 - 22-16 (year 4: 2-0 to date) Anonymous 1: 4-7, 8-5, 9-5 - 21-17 (year 4: 7-5) Anonymous 2: 9-2, 6-5-1, 6-6 - 21-13-1 (year 4: 7-5) The two anonymous are considered two of the best coaches in the nation by most who aren't insane.
In the three years prior to Miles' arrival in Stillwater, the Cowboys finished 5–6, 5–6, and 3–8.
When Saban arrived in East Lansing, Michigan prior to the 1995 season, MSU had not had a winning season since 1990, and the team was sanctioned by the NCAA for recruiting violations committed under his predecessor and former mentor, George Perles.
Yeah, Boom walked into the same situation at Florida.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:44 pm to DamnStrong1860
I actually think Muschamp will eventually develop into a really good coach. The problem is Florida should not have been the place for him to learn on the job.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:48 pm to craigbiggio
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How bad were Okie St and MSU before Miles and Saban took over? How bad was UF when Muschamp took over?
It was a cesspool of self entitled d-bags that he had to get rid of (Janoris Jenkins), and a "broken program" by Urban's own admission. There was NO talent at QB, RB, OL, or WR. NONE. This is the main reason we have sucked so bad on offense the last three years. Now there is a big difference in talent.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:50 pm to roadGator
This thread is bad, and you should feel bad. 
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:52 pm to Korin
So is the point FL fans are trying to make is that the program is failing and not Muschamp?
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:55 pm to xenythx
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I actually think Muschamp will eventually develop into a really good coach. The problem is Florida should not have been the place for him to learn on the job.
Probably not a smart idea. I agree. We'll see if he's got the will to adapt.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:56 pm to bgator85
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Frankie Hammond Jr., Solomon Patton, Trey Burton, Jordan Reed, Mike Gillislee, Chris Rainey, Deonte Thompson are all skill position players on NFL rosters. He also inherited Jeff Demps, guys still on the team like Dunbar and Debose, and a bunch of highly rated QBs.
All of those players were suited for Urban's offense- not a pro style offense that Fat arse coached. Jordan Reed was here one year for boom. I honestly don't remember if Chris Rainey was actually with boom I don't think so.
I will give you Mike Gillislee. None of our TERRIBLE OCs knew how to use Trey Burton.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:59 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Hugh Freeze took a team coming off a 2-10 season to a bowl game in his first season. How many players did Ole Miss have drafted in his first two years? 1. The cupboard was bare when freeze got there, but he still got Ole Miss to bowls.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 3:00 pm to austingator
Can a knowledgeable poster explain how Meyer left the cupboard bare?
UF's recruiting rankings:
07: #1
08: #3
09: #11
10: #2
Was it attrition? Poor recruiting to fill needs? I don't think I've ever seen it explained. TIA.
UF's recruiting rankings:
07: #1
08: #3
09: #11
10: #2
Was it attrition? Poor recruiting to fill needs? I don't think I've ever seen it explained. TIA.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 3:00 pm to Korin
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This thread is bad, and you should feel bad
I don't. Go pee up a rope.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 3:02 pm to Larry
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So is the point FL fans are trying to make is that the program is failing and not Muschamp?
No the point is Urban left the cupboard empty and a program that was broken. He hired 2 bad OC- that is on Boom- but he is rectifying that problem. He has recruited well and know has a OC that knows what he is doing with the personnel we have.
The problems in the KY game were execution problems not coaching problems. So if you guys want to think FL sucks, and Muschamp sucks and there is no hope for FL, go ahead. I'm willing to be optimistic and see. If he sucks this year and there is no coaching improvement he will be fired.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 3:03 pm to WheelRoute
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Was it attrition? Poor recruiting to fill needs? I don't think I've ever seen it explained
OL recruiting was terrible. That or OL coaching was terrible or the players didn't fit the scheme or all of the above. We didn't have a decent TE on the team that was recruited as a TE. The RBs were tiny and useless the way they were used. Everyone knows JD sucks. It's been said here for years. We had tiny WRs for the pro style.
I'm told by many that recruiting rankings aren't everything.
None of that accounts for the locker room issues either.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 3:03 pm to austingator
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If he sucks this year and there is no coaching improvement he will be fired
This. It's pretty simple.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 3:04 pm to austingator
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All of those players were suited for Urban's offense- not a pro style offense that Fat arse coached. Jordan Reed was here one year for boom. I honestly don't remember if Chris Rainey was actually with boom I don't think so. I will give you Mike Gillislee. None of our TERRIBLE OCs knew how to use Trey Burton.
I agree, but nobody was forcing a change in offensive styles. In retrospect we should have waited to make the change.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 3:05 pm to austingator
Yes Boom got the elite type job before Miles and Saban. Damn that sword cuts both ways, much lower expectations than the inherent high expectations.
If you don't perform at one of the powers like the Gators, it is difficult to get another comparable job.
I challenge anyone to name a coach that lost a great college job and latter got another one.
If you don't perform at one of the powers like the Gators, it is difficult to get another comparable job.
I challenge anyone to name a coach that lost a great college job and latter got another one.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 3:05 pm to bgator85
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In retrospect we should have waited to make the change.
Nope. WE should have told Urban to pound sand the first time he quit. That's the root cause of all this IMO.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 3:06 pm to NotRight37
Kiffen, sort of kind of. 
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