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re: Blind test: Which QB would you rather have starting for your team next season?
Posted on 3/19/14 at 3:39 pm to atlgamecockman
Posted on 3/19/14 at 3:39 pm to atlgamecockman
Well shite. B its is then.
I guess we should go ahead and pencil in South Carolina into 2nd place in the SEC East again.
Congrats Cocks.
I guess we should go ahead and pencil in South Carolina into 2nd place in the SEC East again.
Congrats Cocks.
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 3:56 pm to kilo
quote:Well shite, if that's the case then we have to lose to them to win the east and I don't know if I can stomach that
I guess we should go ahead and pencil in South Carolina into 2nd place in the SEC East again.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 4:05 pm to kilo
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Well shite. B its is then
Posted on 3/19/14 at 4:27 pm to CockInYourEar
Posted on 3/19/14 at 8:03 pm to CockRocket
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Dumb. After the 2011 season we lost 5 of our top 7 tacklers including 1st rounders, Melvin Ingram and Stephon Gilmore.
After the 2012 season we lost 7 of our top 10 tacklers including the four top tacklers and all of our LBs. Devin Taylor and DJ Swearinger had good years in the NFL last season as rookies.
This year we lose 4 of our top 10 tacklers.
There is a big difference in those years and this one. The drop off in talent on the roster. You seem to be under the mistaken impression that SCAR just continually reloads which couldn't be further from the truth. As shown by this year, not even Bama does that and if they can't, neither can y'all. SCAR lost 3 of the 4 biggest talents on the DL. You're lucky that Surratt made the mistake of returning because IMO the only other guy on the roster that has a chance to fill even Sutton's shoes is Griffin. Jury is still out on Lamin, as always with JUCOs. You really sell those 3 DL short. I understand you want to pimp the new guys, but last year is one of the best DLs as a unit that SCAR has ever put on the field.
Also, which of these CBs on the depth chart is going to step up and even be a vague approximation of Hampton? Not even mentioning Legree or Christian. That is a gaping chasm on your defense, and it isn't like you have some national title or Broyles winning DB coach in Grady Brown. You guys are moving running backs over just to have the bodies needed. Be interesting to see how he deals with the scant depth.
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You talking about Clowney? This board and ESPN told me that he took the year off and was lazy and wasn't very good. Can't have it both ways.
I'm not the rest of this board or ESPN. He is EASILY the best player to ever take the field at SCAR, Rogers is the only other guy in the conversation. He is your Herschel Walker and just like HW, you'll spend 30 years waiting for another guy that can even walk in his shadow.
Yeah, he didn't play his best last year, but he was still far and away the best player you had.
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You'll find that just isn't true. We don't have anyone on Clowney's level (obviously) but we have talented guys that got some PT last year.
That bold part is quite the understatement. Again, he is irreplaceable with your current roster. That '15 kid might be elite in his own right and something like a Clowney-lite, but he still a year away.
To tie this back in with the actual topic, who is Thompson going to be throwing to anyway? Beyond Roland, it is pretty scary with a tiny, quick guy coming off a knee injury, Cooper and Jones. Not likely to put the fear in opposing defenses. Just saying.
You honestly sound like a Georgia fan here pumping sunshine right now. Or like the Bama fans a couple of years ago that thought they'd easily replace that GOAT offensive line. Good luck with those expectations.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 8:58 pm to CockRocket
Definitely A. Best TD/INT ratio by far.
This post was edited on 3/19/14 at 9:01 pm
Posted on 3/19/14 at 9:28 pm to Nicolae
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I understand you want to pimp the new guys, but last year is one of the best DLs as a unit that SCAR has ever put on the field.
This isn't even close to true. 2010, '11, and '12 were all better, in every statistical category (rush D, TFL, Sacks) and our best year was probably 2011 with Ingram, Taylor, and Clowney. Sutton was disappointing this year. He was supposed to take advantage of all the attention Clowney was getting. Well Quarles took that advantage.
quote:SC has never recruited with the likes of Bama, Georgia, LSU, Florida, etc. and we seem to be doing okay.
You seem to be under the mistaken impression that SCAR just continually reloads which couldn't be further from the truth.
quote:And the year before we lost our entire 2 deep at LB. Freshman stepped in and played well and Skai Moore was put on the All-American Freshman team.
SCAR lost 3 of the 4 biggest talents on the DL
quote:Marcus Lattimore is definitely in the conversation and really so is Shaw. Obviously we haven't seen what USC will be like post-Shaw but we're doing okay in the RB department.
He is EASILY the best player to ever take the field at SCAR, Rogers is the only other guy in the conversation.
quote:Well, we're only losing one WR, admittedly our best, Bruce but we return everyone else that actually got significant PT. Byrd, Roland, Jones, and Cooper (another freshman AA) will be a good group. We've heard this argument about losing a top WR 3 years in a row now, Alshon, Ace, and now Bruce. Not to mention we have a very good TE corp.
To tie this back in with the actual topic, who is Thompson going to be throwing to anyway? Beyond Roland, it is pretty scary with a tiny, quick guy coming off a knee injury, Cooper and Jones. Not likely to put the fear in opposing defenses. Just saying.
quote:I sound just like anyone else that is excited for the next season to start and is excited about their teams' expectations. You sound like the standard rival fan that is repeating the same thing each offseason hoping once it will all be right.
You honestly sound like a Georgia fan here pumping sunshine right now. Or like the Bama fans a couple of years ago that thought they'd easily replace that GOAT offensive line. Good luck with those expectations.
Bottom line is we've gone through replacing whole position groups before and we do reload, whether you think so or not.
We only lose 3 players on O, returning 4/5 of the OLine, and a great stable of RBs. If Thompson struggles at all, he can just let Mike Davis take over the game.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 9:52 pm to CockRocket
You really cant go wrong with either Gurley or Davis both are fricking beast
Posted on 3/19/14 at 9:52 pm to CockRocket
Dylan's stats were the last two seasons. Mauk's was over this season, primarily his three starts and the 4th quarter against Georgia.
Dylan Thompson:
2012 stats: 1027 passing yards, 8.1 ypa, 52% completion percentage, 10 TDs, 2 INTs, 23 yards rushing, .068 rushing ypc, and 1 rushing TD
2013 stats: 783 passing yards, 8.8 ypa, 58.4% completion percentage, 4 TDs, 3 INTs, 27 rushing yards, 1.69 rushing ypc, and 3 rushing TDs
Maty Mauk 2013 stats:
1071 passing yards, 8.1 ypa, 51.1% completion percentage, 11 TDs, 2 INTs, 229 yards rushing, 5.59 rushing ypc, and 1 rushing TD
Mauk's stats last season are very comparable to Dylan in 2012, except that Dylan is a statue and Mauk is a dynamic runner. Also, in 2012 Dylan did most of his work against non-con opponents: 330 yards and 3 TDs against East Carolina, 177 yards and 3 TDs against UAB, 310 yards and 3 TDs against Clemson, and 117 yards and 2 TDs against Michigan. Overall, 934 of his 1027 passing yards and all eleven of his TDs were against non-con opponents in 2012.
Nearly all of Mauk's playing time and stats this year were when Franklin got hurt and Mauk started in his place: the fourth quarter of the Georgia game and the three SEC opponents afterwards.
Both are good QBs. Mauk is more dynamic and has a higher ceiling.
Dylan Thompson:
2012 stats: 1027 passing yards, 8.1 ypa, 52% completion percentage, 10 TDs, 2 INTs, 23 yards rushing, .068 rushing ypc, and 1 rushing TD
2013 stats: 783 passing yards, 8.8 ypa, 58.4% completion percentage, 4 TDs, 3 INTs, 27 rushing yards, 1.69 rushing ypc, and 3 rushing TDs
Maty Mauk 2013 stats:
1071 passing yards, 8.1 ypa, 51.1% completion percentage, 11 TDs, 2 INTs, 229 yards rushing, 5.59 rushing ypc, and 1 rushing TD
Mauk's stats last season are very comparable to Dylan in 2012, except that Dylan is a statue and Mauk is a dynamic runner. Also, in 2012 Dylan did most of his work against non-con opponents: 330 yards and 3 TDs against East Carolina, 177 yards and 3 TDs against UAB, 310 yards and 3 TDs against Clemson, and 117 yards and 2 TDs against Michigan. Overall, 934 of his 1027 passing yards and all eleven of his TDs were against non-con opponents in 2012.
Nearly all of Mauk's playing time and stats this year were when Franklin got hurt and Mauk started in his place: the fourth quarter of the Georgia game and the three SEC opponents afterwards.
Both are good QBs. Mauk is more dynamic and has a higher ceiling.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:01 pm to Sarcastro
quote:Who cares if they were against non-conference opponents? Michigan finished with the number 2 passing D in the nation in 2012. After we torched them for 330. That's how good they were.
330 yards and 3 TDs against East Carolina, 177 yards and 3 TDs against UAB, 310 yards and 3 TDs against Clemson, and 117 yards and 2 TDs against Michigan. Overall, 934 of his 1027 passing yards and all eleven of his TDs were against non-con opponents in 2012.
And Clemson was a top ten team and it was at Clemson. Not an easy game.
quote:While I agree Mauk is a better runner, Thompson can still get after it and has 5 rushing TDs. He takes more sacks but he can run on a 3rd and 7 to pick up the first when he needs too.
except that Dylan is a statue and Mauk is a dynamic runner.
quote:This is probably true. But also, Thompson is a 5th year senior so he knows the system well and has been under Spurrier's wing for a while now and he's tough as hell.
Both are good QBs. Mauk is more dynamic and has a higher ceiling.
FWIW, no Gamecock has tried to tear down Mauk like Mizzou fans have done with Thompson continually. They are the best two returning QBs in the East next year.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:05 pm to CockRocket
The East is gonna be fun again next year
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