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re: Bill introduced in MO legislature that would void scholarships
Posted on 12/14/15 at 4:22 pm to JesusQuintana
Posted on 12/14/15 at 4:22 pm to JesusQuintana
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It doesn't tell us anything other than we have a good ole boy republican state rep pandering to his target audience. Reactive, not proactive.
This is Missouri in a nutshell.
On both sides of the aisle.
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Posted on 12/14/15 at 4:30 pm to RD Dawg
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UGA Athletic Association is a private entity that raises money for UGA athletics and the state is most certainly NOT entitled to those funds.There's an entire board including a treasurer who oversees and invest and disperses those funds.
Is the money at any time transferred from the private entity to the university? If so, there's your answer.
For example...universities now can pay stipends to athletes. At UGA, does the money go straight from the private entity to the students' hands? Or does it go first to the university? Who signs the check that Chubb cashes? Does it go into a university account that Chubb has a debit card for. I can assure you, my friend, that if the money ever enters a university account, the Georgia legislature most certainly can pass legislation to ensure that certain guidelines about disbursement are followed. "Complete horseshite"?
I never said that the state was entitled to take the money and do whatever it wanted to with the money. What I did say was that the state has the authority to pass legislation restricting how the money can be spent. And that legislation may simply be empowering the university administration to spend it appropriately.
What if someone decides to use your "private funds" to give your varsity men's basketball players letterman's jackets, watches, rings, and other bling, but squat to the women? Who do you think is going to get sued? The very public university.
This post was edited on 12/14/15 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 12/14/15 at 4:31 pm to MontyFranklyn
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No the frick its not.
Duhhh...does the money ever enter a university account?
Who the hell do you think would be the first entity sued if there was a Title IX violation regarding disbursement of those funds?
This post was edited on 12/14/15 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 12/14/15 at 4:38 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Bottom line...whenever the school takes in money from any source, it becomes school money...which in this case is a state institution.
This is not accurate....at all.
Posted on 12/14/15 at 4:45 pm to KaiserSoze99
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goose-stepping pinko academic commies
I think you are mashing at least two contradictory political ideologies into one slur. Which ironically does describe Mizzou politics.
Posted on 12/14/15 at 4:45 pm to JesusQuintana
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I'm no lawyer, but I don't see how the state would have any jurisdiction in such matters.
Its a state University isn't it? Unless they are one of only a handful of school that takes zero funds from their state ( LSU is one of these ) I would think if they take state money the state should have a say.
If you have a contract to provide services which is what a athletic scholarship is in return you receive a compensation which in this case a free education. If you refuse to do your part which would be play and practice then you should have your scholarship pulled in other words your fired.
Posted on 12/14/15 at 4:46 pm to JesusQuintana
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What will those conversations be exactly?
Odom landed a 4* LB with an offer a list a mile long within a week of getting the job.
I know you are wishing it will have long term implications, but it's been non news for a long time now.
Maybe this will dredge it back up, or maybe people won't really care. Who knows...
Oh there's no doubt he's hoping it does, but in today's short attention span culture it's already been forgotten by most people.
New day, new shite to be morally outraged by.
Posted on 12/14/15 at 4:52 pm to Mizz-SEC
Just picked up a OG that was committed to Illinois today
Posted on 12/14/15 at 4:54 pm to JesusQuintana
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Just picked up a OG that was committed to Illinois today
Posted on 12/14/15 at 4:58 pm to sullivanct19a
Huh?
Posted on 12/14/15 at 5:07 pm to The Spleen
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Bill introduced in MO legislature that would void scholarships
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Bottom line...whenever the school takes in money from any source, it becomes school money...which in this case is a state institution.
This is not accurate....at all.
It most certainly is.
I never said that the university or state can direct funds donated for one purpose to a different department or a different entity. What I did say is that the state has the authority to make sure that those funds are distributed in accordance with state law. Follow the money. What path does it take from the donor's hands to Nick Saban's? Or the athlete's account? Why do you think the U.S. Department of Education has detailed figures on athletics spending for every SEC school EXCEPT Vandy?
Posted on 12/14/15 at 5:07 pm to JesusQuintana
Again, can we just get this abomination out of the SEC?
Posted on 12/14/15 at 5:11 pm to BamaGradinTn
Someone who thinks that the state legislature doesn't have the authority to pass legislation to oversee the spending of athletic department funds, explain this.
Posted on 12/14/15 at 5:12 pm to sullivanct19a
Again, no but I'm sure you'll keep crying about it until your last breath.
Posted on 12/14/15 at 5:36 pm to JesusQuintana
That should be a SEC Bylaw imho
Posted on 12/14/15 at 5:45 pm to RD Dawg
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UGA Athletic Association is a private entity that raises money for UGA athletics and the state is most certainly NOT entitled to those funds.There's an entire board including a treasurer who oversees and invest and disperses those funds.
Complete horseshite.
Here's UGA's SACS report. You can see for yourself the degree of control that the public institution has over the private entity. "The institution’s chief executive officer has ultimate responsibility for, and exercises appropriate administrative and fiscal control over, the institution’s intercollegiate athletics program." While UGAA raises money for athletics, the President has the ultimate responsibility for how those funds are disbursed.
Posted on 12/14/15 at 5:46 pm to JesusQuintana
They would have jurisdiction by passing a law and having the governor sign it.
Thus the reason for this bill being drafted.
Thus the reason for this bill being drafted.
Posted on 12/14/15 at 6:00 pm to PharmacistReb
I like the cognitive dissonance involved in saying the liberal media would have smeared the University as Racist without the law and that with the law they could have booted the uppity... black people.
So, it's ok to BE racist, but it's bad for that damn liberal media to label someone racist.
So, it's ok to BE racist, but it's bad for that damn liberal media to label someone racist.
Posted on 12/14/15 at 6:26 pm to BamaGradinTn
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the President has ultimate say on how those funds are distributed
So what?The President of UGA is NOT the "state" and his jurisdiction of the funds do not extend to the state treasury.
You said funds donated were property of the "state" and
CLEARLY they are not.
Posted on 12/14/15 at 6:34 pm to RD Dawg
I remember when Republicans were small government.
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