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re: Bill Hancock. BCS president's sister is an Alabama grad.

Posted on 1/19/13 at 5:04 pm to
Posted by Patton
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 5:04 pm to
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However, should a team just WIN up and quit freaking whining? I always tell my son ... don't whine ever. I tell him that his daddy doesn't always win (he is only 6) even though he thinks I am superman at his age. I tell him it's how you play ... I think they should all quit whining and just play ....


CSB
Posted by thatguy1892
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 5:09 pm to
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tickfawtiger


I started this thread as a joke just laughing at the conspiracy theorist, but now you've turned it sad and unfunny.
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 5:10 pm to
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How about the vast majority of SEC refs being from Alabama

Do you have a list of the sec referees?
Posted by Bellabama
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 5:13 pm to
Well I think that too. My dad always said, "if you think things are unfair, you just need to play harder than everyone else to win". In the same spirit, everything that goes around comes around. It's not shameful to take advantage of the breaks you get too.
Posted by cyde
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 5:17 pm to
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Oh and everyone who thinks otherwise is just.....








get ready for it....







"butthurt".

Mad.
This post was edited on 1/19/13 at 5:18 pm
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 5:18 pm to
I'd much rather play UGA, USC, and UF than UK and Mizzou.
Posted by tickfawtiger
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 5:19 pm to
No I don't but, I did see it published a few years back and almost understandibly, the majority were from the state of Alabama.
What's changed since then.....tons more $ from football,more $ for ref's but, no apparent effort {published or otherwise}, to recruit refs from ALL SEC states.
Nor, is there any SEC effort {published or otherwise} to recruit/place high level conference officials from ALL SEC states or, better yet ONLY from non-afiliated universities.
Posted by TideSatchel
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 5:21 pm to
You think sec alums shouldn't be allowed to work for the sec?
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 5:24 pm to
Well tell you buddies in LA to start reffing. Alabama is one of three states to have multiple SEC teams. Not all of the refs from AL have ties to UA. Quite a few have ties to AU. You also can't referee a game of the school you went to.
Posted by Bellabama
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 5:25 pm to
You are comparing the Iron Bowl to the Arkansas-LSU game?
Posted by Bellabama
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 5:26 pm to
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Well tell you buddies in LA to start reffing. Alabama is one of three states to have multiple SEC teams. Not all of the refs from AL have ties to UA. Quite a few have ties to AU. You also can't referee a game of the school you went to.


If they can't tell the difference between a block and a hold, they are going to have a tough time getting a job.
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 5:27 pm to
True
Posted by BamaStud
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 5:29 pm to
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Well I think that too. My dad always said, "if you think things are unfair, you just need to play harder than everyone else to win". In the same spirit, everything that goes around comes around. It's not shameful to take advantage of the breaks you get too.


Agree. Everything you are saying is personal to you and sage to my ear. The constant theme between what You say, your Dad said, I say, and my Son hears is ... don't whine / complain.
This post was edited on 1/19/13 at 5:30 pm
Posted by tickfawtiger
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 5:30 pm to
NOT when the 2 of the 3 most influential positions are held simultaneously by grads from the same university...ever heard of nepotism ? The SEC just seems to engage it it on a higher scale..lol
Yes, I'd prefer to have the SEC second in command and the SEC head of officials, be affiliated with a non-SEC school....you know, to beat back ANY appearance of BIAS !
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 5:31 pm to
Yeah, lets not have the best SEC ref be the head of officials.
Posted by TideSatchel
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 5:33 pm to
Yes I've heard of it. Do you have any specific names in mind? I'm always looking for new names to add to my REC diagram.
Posted by Adam Banks
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 5:43 pm to
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Well, the thing about scheduling is that it isn't just centered around Alabama and LSU. If you look at the dates that Alabama played Missouri and LSU played USCe, it was the same weekend. Alabama had just played USCe in 2010, LSU hadn't played them since 2008. So that takes Missouri out of the mix for playing LSU this past year year. That same weekend, Georgia had a bye week. I haven't looked at the schedule for bye weeks, and I don't know what each school requested, but we know they now watch for teams that are stuck playing multiple opponents after bye weeks. They also have home and away conflicts to manage, and OOC games that have been on the schedule. If you remember that they didn't think Missouri wasn't going to be as bad as they were, it's fairly evident that they tried to put in a team that would be a fairly even match to Georgia. And if you'll remember, there were people who thought the Georgia-Missouri game could be close before the game was played. With regard to the second year in a row, It looks like they again went to see who had played each team the most recently. In 2010, LSU's cross divisional games were Tennessee, Florida, and Vanderbilt. Of the schools that were left, which are Missouri, Georgia, South Carolina, and Kentucky, LSU had played Kentucky in 2011, South Carolina in 2012, Which leaves Georgia and Missouri. Two byes are now in play, which again, I don't know which teams have requested, but with those balanced out, the weekend LSU is playing A&M is the weekend Ole Miss is playing Mizzou. Missouri has an open date on September 14, which is the day they could have played LSU, but LSU is playing Kent State. That is LSU's doing, and since it's an OOC game, probably has less chance of being moved. That then leaves Georgia.




How does when Bama and LSU played USC have anything to do with when each played Mizzou?

Also so LSU has to keep with the regular scheduled rotaion, but Bama gets to miss UGA and skip on to UK?

Mind you the "bridge schedules" have been specifically noted to have no bearing on past and future schedules.
Posted by tickfawtiger
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 5:43 pm to
Not at all ! Just pointing out how when Bama does not care for something, the SEC office seems to quickly react and correct it's mistakes..lol
Just like when it became apparent that a lot of SEC teams were scheduling open dates prior to their bama games...Bama complained and it was quickly corrected {and rightly so, I might add}. Bama's heritage/tradition includes TN, Ga/AU are similar...so what's LSU's "tradition"...night games, that's what. How does the SEC ignore that tradition...and don't tell me it's all about the TV package...see the last 2 games between LSU/ Bama...BOTH at night ! The networks want a TV package with the SEC...why can't the conference "lobby" for one of it's members...kind of like the SEC lobbied for GA this bowl season..lol
Hate to say tit but some LSU fans are feeling a little ignored/left out by the SEC office. Perhaps it's our own weak AD, I don't know. Isn't the conference office "charged" with looking out for ALL members....sorry, I just don't currently see it that way !
Conspiracy....no, probably not....bias, on the other hand ??????? It's only human nature...that's why there are laws related to nepotism...see what I mean ?
Posted by thatguy1892
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 6:05 pm to
First, the SEC offices control when bye weeks are, so you have nothing to stand on there.

Second, LSU playing UGA. That's not the same as playing six SEC teams with a bye. As much as it sucks sometimes have to dwi. It's the way things are. That happen two years in a row.

Third, what does the TSIO and DSOR have to do with LSU night games? That's CBS and ESPNs fault. Not the SEC offices.
Posted by tickfawtiger
Killian LA
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 6:13 pm to
So, you're saying the SEC offices have NOTHING to do with TV contracts OR ever "politic" for certain teams to get into certain bowl games ???
And what are you talking about "open dates" ? Fact...prior to last year the SEC had NO rules regulating how/when open dates fell before SEC games...many SEC teams "took/maneuvered" their open dates PRIOR to their games with Bama...Fact...bama complained to the SEC office {rightly so} and loe and behold a new rule was "enacted"...what's so hard to understand about these facts/events ?
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